I recall some efforts of Trump fans saying that Trump was pro gay rights...

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed. The logic was that Trump actually was good for gay rights because he did not specifically condemn same sex marriage like so many Republicans had and continued to. I was supposed to be impressed that he was supported civil unions, and otherwise was indifferent to the issue, and not a homophobe. Of course such arguments were ludicrous considering his vows on Roe. Now look at where gay rights may end up, with a chunk of the legal underpinning to a federally recognized right to privacy on which Lawrence v Texas was founded, undermined by some language in a full SCOTUS rebuke of Roe.

    But its not just about gays folks! From the Lawrence decision and its prohibition against gay sodomy laws under a privacy right established in part from Roe, state supreme courts, and legislatures saw zero reason to prohibit opposite sex activity when us gays got to do it, and all those 'cohabitation laws, banning unmarried cohabitation ie 'living in sin' laws began to disappear. Even North Dakota and Florida finally gave way with repeals of their cohabitation statutes in 2007 and 2016.

    Our society formalized a zone of a 'right to privacy' based largely on language in Roe, with respect the conduct of our sexual and relationship status that includes with whom and what forms of sex we have, what forms of relationships we form, and our reproductive decisions including contraception and abortion access.

    No Trump is not a homophobe himself. He could care less about gays which means they were always fine as 'collateral damage' to his presidential aspirations and anti abortion politics. That crap that Trump supporters tried to pass off, because Trump said he supported civil unions, and attended a same sex wedding of Jordan Roth in 2012, really does not seem to matter much, now does it?

    Isn't equal opportunity great? Good to know that straights ang gays of both genders can still be collateral damage again and again!
     
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    Trump likes gay people who like Trump.
     
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    Trump crying aside.

    What this will do unnecessarily affect abortion it will just leave it up to the states.

    I Don't think Trump was involved I don't think the boogeyman religious people are involved it's a bad ruling.

    If I were you instead of trying about Trump in the Christians and all the anti-abortion people that are out to get you find out why since the ruling and the 11 legislative. That Democrats help both House and Senate why they didn't do **** about it?

    I'm betting so it's a wedge issue so you and I figure about this stupid nonsense. They can appeal to you and run on making legislation that they never ever will.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Why would anybody want a president to like them? I prefer that they don't know me.
     
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    Trump doesn't care about anything other than Trump.

    He was anti-vax until he wanted himself named as "Father of the COVID vaccine" (Trump-cine).
    He has been an atheist all his life. All he had to do was close his eyes and pretend to pray and hold up a bible in front of a church and his faith was never questioned.
    He has always been a liar and sell-out and now we're stuck with wondering which foreign governments have our nation's classified information.

    And, it's just the same with gay rights. He will say whatever he thinks he's suppose to say to appease his cultists. He's a show man - a one trick pony.
     
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    I'm betting our OP does not know that Joe Biden has done a complete 180 on this issue. He completely opposed roe v Wade in the beginning and he said he thought the courts took the law too far.
     
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    That's normal for Slow Joe.
     
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