'I sleep at night': ...John Bolton says his testimony would not have changed impeachment

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    I understand. Fox News and Breitbart happened to you... The republicans do sometimes get a chance to pursue their conspiracy theories against democrats, and they haven't borne any fruit. I mean, you have the presidency and the senate. They are perfectly free to investigate... and in some cases they have and come up with nothing.

    In contrast, this investigation was barely necessary since Trump openly admitted to it. And other than Romney, the republicans just don't care whether Trump abuses his office or not because he's their guy.
     
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    U just wait & watch... It'll be some delayed justice (likely) & a return to American normalcy to see some of the felonious perpetrators such as Brennan, Comey, McCabe et. al 'squirming'. Prepare yourself for this eventuality as 'Justice' is already in the offing & climbing out of low gears in AG Barr's DOJ... (Despite what you might be cajoled into beveling about his quitting, lol... ) - O & we do have a rather 'telling' IG report that is coming down the pike... :)

    P.S. I wouldn't count Huma Abadin / Wiener & HRC out of the quandary either, lol...
     
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  3. Egoboy

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    Bolton said he would appear for a SENATE subpoena... his statement was VERY specific..
     
  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Miscarriage of Justice because it did not comply with your preconceived notions.
     
  5. struth

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    He said he’d appear for any, including the house if subpoenaed and ordered to go
     
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    Totally irrelevant on all counts. The whistleblower was protected by an act of (a Republican) Congress. Once he alerted his superiors of his concern about a questionable call he had no other role. The investigators took it from there.

    Hunter Biden was purely a political stunt to embarrass Joe Biden. He had absolutely no relevant information to the case of Trump's extortion of Ukraine. He wasn't anywhere near the call.

    Schiff and his staff were the investigators so they had lots of relevant information - all of which became part of the public record during the investigation. This was just an asinine attempt to raise cain by the GOP. Much like their pizza party invasion of the secured witness room. Eisenhower and Reagan are crying in their graves over these unbelievable characters that have become the once great GOP.

    The end result of all this GOP attempt at deflection was the the Senate Republicans agreed Yes, Trump did it, but it was no big deal. The rest of your post is apocryphal at best.
     
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    Do ya ever wonder what would have transpired if Ronald Reagan (at his best, circa 1982, not the senile guy at the end) and Louis Gohmert or Matt Gaetz were put in a room together?? Would they require a translator (English to Moron)??
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Totally relevant and the only protection for the alleged whistleblower is from retribution but since the DOJ and OLC said it did not qualify as whistleblower status it's a moot point anyway. It all started with him and Hunter Bidens activities and concerns at the state department are relevant especially to the Tumps intent. Hunter embarrassed his Dad enough without Trump and we STILL need a full investigation into his collaboration and pay for play scheme. Why do you think he should get away with selling influence? Since when did he gain immunity?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    "appear" not answer all their questions and executive privilege would had applied there just as in the House. But totally moot he said nothing he could testify would have changed anything.
     
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    "'I sleep at night': ...John Bolton says his testimony would not have changed impeachment"

    he is right, republicans did not care about the truth, but it still would have been nice for the public to have heard it
     
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    if Bolton was a bust, republicans would have let him speak and would not be blocking his book now

    the reality is, the right supports the tyrant now in office no matter what
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    The investigation wasn't necessary at all since Trump admitted to carrying out his duties as President and was perfectly within his authority. And conspiracy theories? You mean the biggest in the history of the country, Trump/Russian collusion? Yea it bore no fruit. Which Republican investigations are you referring to?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    There was no need for them to move on and especially when Pelosi put the brakes on that's a specious excuse. But then he had nothing to add to the proceedings they didn't already have.
     
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    It wasn't for the Republicans to decide, executive privilege would have been asserted just as in the House. The Democrats choose not to call him and we know it wouldn't have made a difference there. Another nothingburger.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Oh well that's what we're here for to discuss the issues.
     
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    I'm sure you can find someone to argue with without referencing your sources. And, I don't do it all of the time...only when confronted with absurd claims...as in "Congress has no oversight powers regarding the Presidency."
     
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    That's more than likely not true... If the reports about the book are correct, this would be the first person who would claim Trump said Aid for
    Biden TO them...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachel...raine-aid-to-investigations-nyt/#163fbb1346bc

    And there goes the "second hand" baloney...

    Still wouldn't have been enough for those GOP traitors, but it certainly would have been "adding" to the proceedings... Witnesses usually do...
     
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    No doubt. Turtle & the other bum kissers would have given Fake Don a pass no matter how much more evidence of his perfidy were exposed.

    It was simply less embarrassing to gag witnesses willing to testify publicly under oath.

    Everyone already knew that the National Security Adviser had revealed that Trump had told him directly to assist in his raunchy caper to coerce Ukraine’s government into announcing investigations for Trump’s personal political gain.
     
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  19. Bluesguy

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    Oh so now BOLTON would have lied. Bolton has nothing to add to what we already know and that is there was no impeachable offense. Another "just wait, one more witness, we got him now, this is really really really it" goes up in smoke.
     
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    Bolton would have brought nothing to show an impeachable offense because there wasn't one when will you get over it? They had 13 witnesses.
     
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    executive privilege was never asserted, republicans could have allowed it, if Trump feared the truth getting out, he could of fought it - it was totally up to republicans
     
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    republicans keep trying to push this nonsense, but the evidence shows otherwise and Trump was impeached over it... just not removed over it

    the House will continue to investigate and go after the players that participated under Trump - will take years, but the truth will come out, the docs can't be covered up by Trump forever
     
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    I'm over Impeachment #1
     
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    Wow..
     
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    We'll see....................
     

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