I support gay marriage

I support gay marriage so that the homosexual activist groups will no longer have an honest excuse to claim discrimination every chance they get - and such a petty, juvenile issue will no longer be front and center, like it makes a (*)(*)(*)(*)'s worth of difference compared to issues like our economy.

Oh and the extremists who think that legalizing homosexuality will lead to earthquakes need to get a life. Cause their opinions have no relevance in politics. I want this stoopid issue to no longer be a topic of discussion in politics so we can move on to real issues.

 

Job security.

Just destroyed your entire logic.

 

Excuse me?

 

Homosexuals want Job secuirty. People are denying them job security. Therefore, they have a honest excuse to claim discrimination.

 

That's why I'll support gay marriage if it means I never have to hear about this issue again, since it's not even a political issue to begin with and has no relevance in the grand scheme of things.

I suspect that we'll still have gay groups crying discrimination, just like with black civil rights groups - but if it means that politicians' opinions on gays will never be relevant in the MSM again, then I'll happily support gay marriage and call it a done deal.

 

Really? People are fired over their sexual orientation, that's a civil right's issue. Since there's a civil right's issue, it destroys your logic.

 

People can't legally be fired over their sexual orientation, so it's moot point.

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...ofiles-Missouri-s-dumbest-anti-gay-legislator

It's actually legal in some places, to fire someone over sexual orientation.

 

Good, well done.

 

It's illegal in places where people have all their teeth.

 

Just a quick google on the topic brought me to this:


http://www.hrc.org/campaigns/employment-non-discrimination-act

 

well, there two sides of that and I agree with both.

One side is that employers should be able to hire whomever they wish, even if they are racist homophobes.

And then there's the other side, the practical side. And I kind of like that one too.. I'm stuck!

 

It certainly wouldn't be juvenile if Spacecricket was being denied basic human and civil rights do to his orientation.

 

Have you been denied a job because of it? Please be honest. I would venture to guess the answer is no and that employers could care less about what you do sexually

 

I haven't but my gay friends in the military have. It's not exactly THAT long ago in american history that we've had blatant and obvious discrimination, it certainly wasn't limited to the military, and it would be a little naive IMO to think that's where it's limited to. Frankly, I'm not "out" at my jobs to I've never tried to test the water myself.

In your experience in business management, have you been sued for discrimination? Please be honest. I would venture to guess the answer is no.

 

In the US, they aren't.

Basic human and civil rights = slavery, being forced to eat at separate restaurants, being denied the right to vote, etc

Gays don't suffer from any of those, in fact an unmarried gay is 100% equal to an unmarried straight in all aspects.

Most employers cannot discriminate based on sexual orientation, so acting like that's a widespread issue is disingenuous.

 

Disingenuous until you move to a state where this is not the case. Kinda sounds like that saying... what's the difference between a recession and a depression? A recession is when your neighbor loses their house. A depression is when you lose your house. From what I saw, 29 states, while maybe not the majority of employers, is nothing to scoff at. To do so is rather disingenuous.

As for "basic civil rights", equal protection of the laws is among them. You can argue that gays have this already, but equating violations of "basic civil rights" strictly to such things as severe as slavery... well, need I say it????.... it's a little disingenuous. It's not easy to just look at us and tell we're gay, so obviously you won't see discrimination manifest in exactly the same way as, say, racial discrimination.

Have we been denied employment on the bases of sexual orientation? Yes
Have we been denied custody of our children based on sexual orientation? Yes
Have we been denied the right to vote based on criminal prosecution for homosexual behavior? Yes.


Things have gotten better, but only in recent history We're talking about changes in the laws sometimes less than 10 years old. It's not like we've forgotten, nor should we.

 

So nowhere in the south?

Of course I kid, but it's quite clear, that we still have a ways to go.

 

I'm 17. I haven't had a job yet. So the answer would be by default, no.

 

Well, it is a political issue because a whole class of people are denied certain rights that are afforded to other people.

 

well go get one

17 and no job yet......................

you will be surprised at the life's lessons you'll receive which no textbook can teach you. And, you'll also be surprised how much BETTER you'll do at school because a teen needs to learn to balance school and work otherwise you have too much idle time on your hands.

 

I support gay marriage based solely on the ideas that 1) there is no reason for one to dictate who can and can't marry and 2) that people who claim that is a threat to anything is really stupid (looking at you, overzealous religious nutjobs)

 

If it'll get gay activists to shut up and quit whining about how 'persecuted' they are, despite the fact that gay men have more rights than straight women serving in the military, then hell i'll support it for that reason alone.

 

Works for me. I don't care what your motivation is.

 

I don't either, it's so good to be agreeing for a change.