I-Team: Young Black man held in jail for 6 days on warrant for older white man with same name in Las

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  1. Matt84

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    Yes, I can clearly see the resemblance.

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    LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — A Black man was not even alive when the white man police misidentified him as was first convicted of a crime.

    Shane Lee Brown, 25, spent six days in two separate jails on a warrant involving a middle-aged man in a case of mistaken identity, a lawsuit filed in federal court claims.

    Henderson police pulled over Shane Lee Brown, 25, on Jan. 8, 2020, the lawsuit said. Brown, who is Black, did not have his identification but provided police his name, Social Security number and Social Security card, the lawsuit said.

    While performing a records check for “Shane Brown,” a felony warrant for a different Shane Brown appeared, the lawsuit said. The bench warrant for Shane Neal Brown, then-49 years old, was for a charge of ownership or possession of a firearm by a prohibited person.

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    Score one for team blue.

    Righties, what say you?
     
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  2. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    That's messed up on multiple levels, surely the police had more than this or suspected something else? A mistake? :)
     
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    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    Of course they did. This is typical in America.

    But this case is just on a whole other level of incompetence.
     
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    Despite being informed of this mistaken identity, none of the unknown LVMPD police or LVMPD corrections officers bothered to review its own records to determine whether Shane Lee Brown was the subject of the warrant.”


     
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    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    "A spokesperson for the LVMPD, which oversees the jail, said the department does not comment on pending litigation.

    A spokesperson for the Henderson Police Department referred questions to a city spokesperson who said once the city reviews the lawsuit, they will respond in court."

    Now exactly how do you respond to obvious incompetence?

    "We took all measures on the books and found no wrongdoing".

    Did I get it right?
     
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    Maybe the white guy identifies as a black man? Race is a social construct right?
     
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    Defense of police duly noted. Well, that's one. I'll continue to keep score.
     
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    Ok I'll bite. Do you think police are not human?
     
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    Despite being informed of this mistaken identity, none of the unknown LVMPD police or LVMPD corrections officers bothered to review its own records to determine whether Shane Lee Brown was the subject of the warrant.”
     
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    Probably not. When I was in college, all the black males had been hauled in regardless of the victims' statements that whoever committed the crime was not black. One of my buddies was about 5/10 or so. He got hauled in and held for a couple of days. They released him because the assailant attacked another female and was identified. He was white, 6'4" and had a beard. The only common characteristic was they were both males. That particular guy got taken in several times a year for the whole 4 years we were in college. The descriptions NEVER matched his. ;-(

    Black and brown people are ALWAYS considered to be criminals until they can prove otherwise.

    White people are ALWAYS considered to be innocent until the police have enough information to know they are not.


    I don't just have an issue with this because of the systemic racism against minorities, but I strong believe that people don't understand this is exactly why so many crimes happen for decades right under their noses. It's because their "mental image" of what a criminal looks like automatically filters out the people that don't fit that image.

    This also happens in the reverse. People should not be teaching their children that someone is safe solely because of their job title. Predators work in all kinds of fields, mostly undetected, because they hide in plain sight. Nobody should be exempt from scrutiny. Do you know how many women have been sexually assaulted over decades simply because the assailant was considered above reproach? (ie. Cuomo, Cosby, Clinton, the Kennedys, Trump and on and on). If women felt safe from blame and shame and reported those crimes, even if the officer doesn't follow-up on it, the documents are there. Eventually, one more report would tip the scales for somebody to pay attention.

    It's absolutely ridiculous that even when those voices are heard...it's usually not about helping the victim. It's usually done to harm a man. Why are we only paying attention to a victim of a crime when it's solely for the benefit of the people opposed to <a person running for an election>?
     
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  11. Matt84

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    Not only did they get the wrong person, it took a public defendant to get this man cleared. The same police who arrested him had no interest in correcting its mistake.

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    The next time a cop gets ambushed, I'll use your sarcastic logic.

    "Do you think cop ambushers are not human"?
     
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    This case reminded me of one that happened a while ago.

    A big name company hired some branch managers and flew them all out to a training conference. At the end of the conference, each manager was given keys to their new office and a document they could use to have Brinks deliver cash when they were ready to open. By the way, as part of condition for hire, the managers had to allow them to review their credit report and any crimes involving money. So, EVERY SINGLE NEW HIRE had passed all that. None of them had criminal histories and all had excellent credit scores.

    The Corporate office hired some off-duty, plain clothes cops to keep an eye on things. All the managers they keep watching on were minorities and none of the new managers knew they were under surveillance.

    Fast forward about a week or two, staff has been hired, cash delivered, each branch manager was ready to open for business.

    Oops. Nobody was watching the pretty blonde with the nice smile. A few of her staff members showed up but the doors were locked so they called the Corporate Office. A regional manager went to look into it and she and the money were gone.

    I lost track of how that investigation was going but it was obvious that she had planned it because her apartment was empty and all the personal references were fake names and numbers. Just like that, walked right out with a big bag of cash without a trace.

    It's boring after that. All the other managers, including the black and brown ones, were aboveboard.
     
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    What's the sole purpose of a cop ambusher? And then compare that to the sole purpose of the police department.

    lol.

    And then come back at me with a better comparison.

    But back to your main story, yes. The police ****ed up. I don't think there is some GRAND conspiracy to hold this guy for the rest of his life and he's likely going to have a nice windfall from the impending lawsuit. If there were some SYSTEMIC system in place he would not have an avenue to sue the system that held him, legally. Nor would he gain any rewards from the admission of wrongdoing.

    Systemic racism - which is what this dumb thread is alluding too. And I call it dumb with confidence as you would never make a thread about a white person being falsely arrested and held...even though that happens all the time.

    Police are human. They **** up from time to time.

    /shrug
     
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  15. Steve N

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    The police screwed up and the guy is suing for $500k. Would you spend 6 days in jail for $500k? People have been quarantined for 10 days for more and never received a dime.

    So anyway, you didn't make any kind of point with your post. Based on your history you're either trying to paint all cops as evil, especially the white ones. Or you're trying to paint all blacks as victims. Which is it?
     
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    Not surprisingly, a woman lawyer as well.
     
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    And they **** up more when they’re not held accountable and for a blue wall to protect t each other’s duck ups
     
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    Yes I will agree that sometimes a cop can get away without proper punishment when they **** up. But understand that everyone ****s up at their jobs.

    If a pizza cook ****s up the customer gets the wrong toppings.
    If a cop ****s up, someone can die.

    The nature of the act of enforcing the law means the margin of error has to be INCREDIBLY thin. UNREALISTICALLY thin since they are not robots.

    As such...in this case. They ****ed up. And dude just got the lottery windfall. He made 500k for 1 week's worth of his life. So I would probably punish the cops. But fire? That would be a hard sell. Unless it's proven to have been absolutely malicious. And I doubt very much that would be the case. Because that would mean the cops would have had to have been the DUMBEST ****ing people on the planet to have thought that willfully locking up a black guy instead of a white guy would have stuck for any amount of reasonable time before the error was discovered.

    This was a **** up. Dudes gonna get a handsome paycheck.

    Who cares?
     
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    How the hell do you mix something like this up? Their entire names aren't even the same! And they didn't even attempt to correct it. That's just high level negligence and incompetence and once again the taxpayer gets to foot the bill.
     
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    Post 3, 4, 9 and 11. Did you intentionally not read it? Reading isn't just looking at words.

    Now explain Steve........

    How in the hell do you mix these two up?
     
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    how the hell do you **** up toppings on a pizza?
     
  22. Matt84

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    Oh yes, toppings on a pizza vs taking away an innocent person's freedom because of police incompetence.

    Want to try again?
     
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    When you say the police screwed up with your first post and it involves someone black you know this was obvious. Even Steve couldn't defend it. And that's saying a lot!
     
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    I say computer error or incompetence or both. I hope the young Black man collects damages. What is your point exactly and what do you see as a political issue with respect to this incident.
     
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    I didn’t mix those two up. Crap happens. Bad things happen to good people.
     

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