I think Jews are closer to the truth on reincarnation than we Christians are.

One of the highest level beings of light who meets with people who have a brush with death,
near death experience..... or similar spiritual experience...... IS FACELESS..... my theory is that
the Most Ancient Intelligences have EMPATHY that is so great... that if the Holy Spirit / Ruach ha Koesh / The Comforter......
looks at you Trevorw2539.... then perhaps that ancient Intelligence...... would have your face...........

... which might help to explain.....

Exodus 33:20 "And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live."

 

I would challenge you to point out an instance where I was contradictory or dishonest, as I pride myself on my honesty and would like to know where I have failed.

 

Perhaps it is unfair of me to cite this one... .but.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/political-forum-debate-1.477663/#post-1066689224

Some of your later statements....... indicate that you were somewhat stretching yourself back on October 3, 2016????

I quoted you here assuming that you were ninety five percent serious in what you wrote:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/brilliant-pro-life-arguments.500510/

 

Everything stated was an accurate interpretation supplied in full honesty, it was in fact meant to present the internal debate and thinking I would hope everyone feels on this issue and in no way changes my Pro-Choice beliefs. Believe it or not Dennis...complexity often leads to contradictory mindset and if anything it indicates a deeper thinking. I personally do not agree with Abortion, yet I do agree a perfect stranger who is Pregnant gets to decide what she does with her life and body.

 

Well said.... which is why in my own mind I suspect that a law restricting access to abortion......
may NOT be the most effective long term method to actually reduce the incidence of women feeling
pressured to choose abortion for economic reasons....... but.... the complexity of the issues surrounding third term abortions means that there should be a legal difference between a first term abortion and a third term or partial birth one.....

One of the implications of the evidence that indicates reincarnation is that human life..... .(and the life of animals as well)... .. may well have something resembling infinite value to the Intelligence / Intelligences that has formed our original grandparents...... www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

Late term abortion is extremely rare and legal limits are already in place...You have ingested Red Herring and I recommend you research rather than read talking points.
https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-she...XHhxTqw6gooNf_H3Pr4PCGPzjOz3l_SxoCvGcQAvD_BwE
"

Late termination of pregnancy (also referred to as late-term abortion)[2] describes the termination of pregnancy by induced abortion during a late stage of gestation.[3] "Late", in this context, is not precisely defined, and different medical publications use varying gestational age thresholds.[3] In 2015 in the United States, about 1.3% of abortions took place after the 21st week,[4] and less than 1% occur after 24 weeks"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy

 

https://www.near-death.com/reincarn...GDR5kX2GdkHw4HJtTa3zOTWO20KVd-CqZA9ODeJTdfHpI

 

Don't kid yourself, Tate … you're both equally delusional...

 

Since no one really knows the truth and if they did they wouldn't know it, we have absolutely no way of judging who is closer to the truth...

 

That is the really cool thing about discussion forums though..... . We are free to take an educated guess here.... without getting fired or taken to court!

 

You could be right........
but I wrote this up for a significant percentage of the people I debate with to save time writing this basic concept over and over and over again......

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

I wouldn't know about that since I was self employed for 35 years.

 

Kabbalists are not mainstream Judaism, nor are they even traditional Judaism.

It's completely disingenuous to claim this is what "Judaism" says about reincarnation.

 

Aish .com deals with the topic as well.

https://www.aish.com/jl/l/a/48943926.html

Reincarnation and Jewish Tradition
Jun 21, 2003 | by Yaakov Astor

So does Jewish Virtual Library:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/reincarnation-and-judaism

and.....

http://oer2go.org:81/wikipedia_en_all_novid_2017-08/A/Olam_Ha-Ba.html
Jewish eschatology

 

Well this part is one of the few testable points made and it's a pile of crap:

 

According to analysis of artifacts, symbols, and various structural clues found in tombs associated with The Lid of Palenque, Lord Pacal, and Viracocha, successive incarnations can alternate between black, white, and other races. Thus some of the ancient head sculptures in Mexico that have features relating to members of the black race are not really such a great mystery.

 

Here a viewpoint from the Hindu religion: About every 5000 years depopulation occurs when God reaps the harvest of qualified souls on earth by way of natural catastrophes.

 

Dr. Ian Stevenson found some interesting ways to test the children who remember past lives.

https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/research/ian-stevenson.html#a03

This type of research is a significant step toward a world where:

Isaiah 11:9 "They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea."

... partly because will know the truth about..... how our soul and over soul.... whatever it will become to be termed.... .doesn't really ever get away with any harm or suffering that we cause to other humans....... or even to animals........


https://www.near-death.com/science/research/life-review.html

Isaiah 65:25 "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD."

 

Once the truth about all this is better understood the whole world will enter an era where all flesh...... will be humbled........ and we will be so much less critical and judgmental toward others once we all know the bigger plan that is going on.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/2/1/s_681001

Isaiah 2:3

And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

.......

Isa 2:11

The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.

......

Isa 2:17

And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day."


(Many Jews find it somewhat traumatic to consider that they may have been Gentiles in another lifetime.......... all of us find this information somewhat uncomfortable but...... humbling. What kind of scared me was the idea that my over soul would be a woman in roughly fifty percent of past lives)!

Isaiah 57:15 "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones."

 

This idea of our bodies as being merely vessels was shown to near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald to be an important part of the teachings of Rabbi Yeshua- Jesus to his disciples.


Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D:

This could be important......... for Jewish Christian relations:

http://www.thomastwin.com/25 A Renard and Simon Magus.html

 

It has been several years since I read this...... I am so glad that I am just now reading this again.

http://www.thomastwin.com/25 A Renard and Simon Magus.html

 

As it says in the scriptures, the first shall be last and the last shall be first.

 

Included in the Hindu beliefs is the notion that people reincarnate up to 16 times within the last 2500 years of the 5000-year span. Those who are not “harvested” are left behind to repopulate the earth.

Mayans settled on the idea that the sunspot cycle for reversal of its magnetic polarity is every 3740 years. From their starting point of 3113 BCE, they anticipated the next calamity to occur 3740 years later at 627 CE. With a fudge factor of plus or minus 187 years, the final blow is within 440 to 814 CE. Their civilization collapsed on 750 CE.

Per the above reckonings, the target date for our doomsday is 3113 CE + 5000 = 1887 CE; with the fudge factor of 187 years, the range is 1700-2074 CE. The grim reaper might get treated to a generous banquette.

 

On one level...... the unusual claim by Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. is that Judas Didymus Thomas would have been the elder of the twins..... Judas Thomas and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus. In his book he lists a series of past lives........... that he volunteered for to serve his younger brother Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus........ in one of them for example he saw himself as a Native woman.... .an artist... .who committed suicide after her husband and so many of her people had been killed by Europeans.

Genesis 25:23 "And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."

Separation from his own people is one of the things that the twin... would have to learn... to fulfill his important role in the Restoration of All Things.

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD
to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness
to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)


Acts 3:21

“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began."


Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...

cause it to fall?

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD
to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness
to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)

In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!


"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
(Matthew 12)

 

What we humans, from the point of view of four dimensional space - time see happening can look so different
when viewed from the higher invisible dimensions:


Howard Storm Ph. D:

Three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater something very similar about what happened after the
terrorist attack of September 11, 2001.


http://pmhatwater.hypermart.net/resources/PDFs/911.pdf

the challenge of september 11, a memorial . . . from the pen and the heart of p. m. h. atwater, Lh.D. This memorial may be quoted and used by any- one who is respectful of what it contains. Just give proper credits. P. M. H. Atwater, Lh.D..