I told you guys a year or more ago Roe was doomed!

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    The great thing about this scene is that the film makers deliberately wrote the childless couple cold, bitter, and depressed. They also made the 'dumb' people trashy and awful, but warm and happy.

    I think something was lost in translation for you, FA.
     
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    It was doomed because Moscow Mitch refused to schedule a single hearing on any nominee for SCOTUS for a 4th of Obama's term in office. Our morals are in freefall since Trump was elected, and this does nothing but excellerate the speed of descent.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    More like 'kill them because I couldn't be assed being responsible about sex'.
     
  4. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Here's that word .. "forced" again.

    Please explain how she was forced to conceive.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    like storming the capital, was just a nice normal tour, guess it's all perspective
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    :) It's exactly like :
    Whaler17 said:
    Those of you who keep on with the “ who is going to pay to raise these kids” , why don’t you apply this to the open border problem?""


    MORE poor kids of any group will raise taxes :) :)

    But of course , Republicans don't care that much about actual born children so they may let them suffer..
     
  7. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Well lies like this will not convince anyone. This is why leftists typically lose debates in spectacular fashion. Instead of supporting their position ( which they can’t) they attempt to demonize all who disagree with them.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) It's exactly like :
    Whaler17 said:
    Those of you who keep on with the “ who is going to pay to raise these kids” , why don’t you apply this to the open border problem?""


    MORE poor kids of any group will raise taxes :) :)

    But of course , Republicans don't care that much about actual born children so they may let them suffer..

    LOL, it was the Republican party that constantly tries to cut funding for ANYTHING that aids BORN children like Welfare, WIC, SNAP...and even public TV (cause it's cheap education for POOR CHILDREN..)
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Just nonsense. You bore me
     
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    Sure it will. Access to abortion is how people get abortions. When you remove access, the abortions that would have happened, don't. Sure, there may be a smaller percentage who find some other way to do it, but that's not going to be the case for the majority of women who need them.
     
  11. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean like how drug users lost access to drugs and how gun laws successfully disarmed criminals?

    Those with money would simply take a flight and make use of the thriving medical tourism industry this will create. Those without will just take a pill.

    It is not likely a single abortion will be prevented. This is more of a "feel good" issue. Its like Dems increasing taxes to help the poor. Society is worse off, but they get a warm feeling.
     
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    If we base the utility of a law on whether or not it prevents the crime from ever happening, we should abolish all laws.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I made no such sweeping generalization fallacy. Every action was once a thought. Would laws against "evil thoughts" benefit society in any way? Of course not. People can easily conceal their thoughts and the law would only discourage seeking help. Abortion laws will keep those considering an abortion from openly discussing their thoughts. No one will ever know why she took a short trip.

    Abortion laws have no benefit to society.
     
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    Obviously many disagree. They have the same utility to society as any other homicide laws do.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep straying from the topic. Please demonstrate the benefit to society resulting from abortion laws.
     
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    What is the benefit of any other homicide law?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    dodge
     
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    You admitted you dodged the key question! I consider that growth.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dodged an abortion question with a homicide answer. That is a dodge. The question you dodged was:

    Please demonstrate the benefit to society resulting from abortion laws.
     
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    No real abortion discussion can be had without first acknowledging what I feel is obvious, abortion is a homicide.

    the benefit to society from abortion laws is the same benefits society gets from any other homicide law!!!!

    There is your direct answer!
     
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  21. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a diversion. Homicide is not illegal. Any benefits you can come up with are easily outweighed by the troubles that expanded government brings.
     
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    Most homicides are illegal! All are subject to legal oversight! So abortion should be as well.
    Glad you finally admit that abortion is a homicide.
    Why is that fact so hard for pro abortion folks to admit?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not pro-abortion. I understand your position and for the sake of discussion, you can call it murder and can have unlimited resources to enforce abortion laws. How would you enforce abortion laws? (Specifically)
     
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    The same way you enforce all other homicide laws. That is a weak red herring.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dodge. I asked about abortion laws specifically.
     

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