I want to clarify something here

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    About the military, and my disdain some may have missed.

    Firs about the military, many want to accuse me I don't know what I'm talking about. To a extent, that is true, I am not a military encyclopedia. Many here are veterans, I get that and that segways into my point I am not against veterans, both past and currently serving. I have, however, a healthy and necessarily disdain for the military in general, due to the barbaric nature of killing, let alone what recruits go through. Many serve for the educational perks, on that note, it has never been easier to educate yourself. You don't need West Point to be a genius in technology or engineering. You can go on Wikipedia, or buy hundreds of thousands of books on the subject.

    Serving in the military, in its 200+ year history, has never been more unnecessary. Let's just pull our pants up, and deal with that fact. We have drones, we have these robotic instruments we can send in over human bodies. Robots that are devoid of feeling emotion, being a causality, or causing friendly fire, or the shooting of innocent civilians in the crossfire. And most importantly, don't break up families because their father may not come home. Having a disdain for the military service is healthy, because it is about the preservation of life. I am pro-abortion, for example, but you can't be pro-life and be pro-military. It's a one-way street.

    The decline of the VA is sickening, I will admit, but its corruption may be a necessary evil. As less Americans become soldiers, Veterans Affairs will soon no longer be necessary, and follow the process of elimination/.

    Much of what I post military-wise is for show, for entertainment. A superior would really have to piss me off for me to go to the extent to smash his face inside out. I wouldn't do it voluntarily. That is more for show, than my literal opinion its worth being a draft dodger, which it is. That's legitimate, and not for show.

    In conclusion, I will not apologize for those I may have offended, because having a disdain for the military is healthy, and makes one more patriotic because they are looking out for the well-being of fellow Americans. I will not delete my account, and I will continue to spread the messages that need to be heard by the next generation. If it irks you, makes you think, its doing its job. To simply ignore it is to only fool yourself.

    Its time the military shrunk, Obama stared it, its on a pathway to more shrinkage, to the idea we should only have the Air Force, Navy and Marines. And even then, only in small numbers. And, as food for thought, what do you think it really means to be gloating about having the worlds most powerful military?
     
  2. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for your clarification. I appreciate the explanation.
    My take:
    1st- Yes, killing is a horrible job. But when there's an enemy that wants you dead, some men and women have to do evil so that people can sleep tightly in their beds (forgot who said that)
    2nd-Drones and robotic instruments are nothing without on the ground intelligence and support. A drone can't search a village an arrest a high valued target to extract VITAL information about an attack
    3rd-I think the draft is a really stupid thing and should never be implemented
     
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  3. J.Idallian

    J.Idallian Well-Known Member

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    To me, it sounds like your gripe is that you think people are barbarians for serving in the military. You abhore any type of violence, which leads you to the thought that recruits are somehow mistreated. What you, and so many others, fail to understand is that those recruits are treated the way they are for very specific reasons. There is a bar of training that one must meet in order to adequately survive a combat situation. If you can't handle a drill and two staff sgt's bellowing at you, then you're as good as dead in the field. Might as well wash out. Those three men did you a favor by getting you to quit. As far as the rest of it, no one really gives a damn that you think killing is unnecessary. You're not Ghandi. You're not that kid in Tienamen Square. The only thing you're going to achieve is being one of the first people that dies in a conflict because you refuse to fight back. So be it, that's your choice.

    Jfc the contradictions and blatant ignorance. First and foremost, until skynet is developed, all of those robots and drones are controlled by people. You're right, the robot is devoid of emotion, and cannot be a casualty. Drones are tools to be used by people. People will still pull triggers. This is such a horrible skew of logic that I can't for the life of me understand how you're not heavily medicated. Having a disdain for the military or military service is not healthy, because if you understood the actual concept of invasion and occupation, you'd understand a basic principle that causes all our boys to go into the field: Greater Good. If you have to sacrifice 25 marines to save 10,000 people, could you make that call? I could, in a damn heartbeat. Any serviceman could, because they understand the concepts of sacrifice and survival. Something you soft ass progressives can't conceive of in your perfect little utopian world of perfect equality.

    There is zero reason to allow the VA to be a corrupt institution. Veterans should be the best cared for people in this entire nation. They are the ones making the sacrifice so that we can live in peace and prosperity.

    Feel free to the hell out of the country, and never to return then. The draft is a terrible idea, however, it's the law. You seem to be of the mindset that some laws are a choice. Well, you know what? Maybe I feel like the law that prevents me from smashing your face into the pavement is a choice. Maybe others feel the same way, who knows?

    Let me be clear on one thing. No serviceman or woman needs, wants, or pines for your apology. That's what makes these people who they are. They have their own reasons for joining, but they all serve. That's what makes them worthy of admiration. Hate the government for placing them in proxy wars? Fine. Hate the government for constantly expanding it? Fine. Hating the people that serve or the institution itself? Infuriating.

    I think it means we're going to be safe from people like you for a long, long ******ned time. Thank god for that, and thank you to every member of the armed services, for whatever reason you joined or served.
     

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