I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    If a city is 100% privately owned, from the roads to the water system to the power grid, to waste disposal, to schools, to universities, to emergency services, to hospitals. Then the state/federal government/courts and have no basis on which to strike down the ban and the residents/citizens of the town have no right or method to sue as the "private government" is fulfilling all its duties on the private dollar and no taxes are being used from outside the town/city.

    With this in place the pro gun control/anti gun folk like myself would have places where we could be 100% safe from the gun violence with out having to worry about courts striking down our laws.
     
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    Questerr Well-Known Member

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    Until a local entity annexes it.
     
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    I would suspect you have to build your 'private' city in one of the 50 United States. You would still have to abide by that State and the Federal Government laws.
     
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    Why America, clearly your dreamland lay south and it's called Australia!
     
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    you’re either a paid troll or this is satire, but i’ll play...

    you are actually in that case talking about secession. the 2nd amendment applies to every square inch of this country. you cannot have a “private government.”

    but i’ll entertain your pipe dream for a moment... how will you actually keep guns out of your utopia? strip search at the gate for every person entering? and what will you do if a gun is discovered?

    if you want to insure lower violent crime, you’d be better off banning african americans who are statistically far more likely to commit a violent crime than whites, asians, hispanics, and other ethnicities. actually the group with the lowest incidence of violent crime are middle-aged white male concealed handgun permit holders. so i would have lots of them in your imaginary fantasy town if you really cared about public safety.

    but of course you don’t really care about public safety.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Guns would be kept out by a mandatory search at the road entry points. (equal to boarder patrol in canada/us boarder and an electric fence around the boarder
     
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    Ill play along. Is this city ran by any taxes? What if the people vote out those who pass laws against guns? How will the crime be kept in check since not every crime committed is with a gun?
     
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    Yes it would be built in middle of nowhereland in one of the massive states with barely anyone living there. As long as the government does not have to pay 1 cent into the private city it would be with in its right to do anything it wanted in response to guns.
     
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    Yes taxes of the private citizens, the charter will have a specific ban with the punishment of exile from the city for any canidate that is pro gun. A private "police" force and "Cours" will enforce and stop crime.
     
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    There are plenty of countries that outright ban private ownership of firearms. If that's the highest value in your life, just move there. Problem solved.
     
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    But then I have to get citizenship and all that extra stuff.
     
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    that will have to be a strip search. and what’s to stop someone from throwing guns over your trumpian wall?
     
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    chingler Banned at Members Request

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    i would like to try some of what you’re smoking.
     
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    That sounds a lot easier than creating a private city.
     
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    Nothing but no one is allowed with in 100 ft of the fence also, who other then the NRA would actually try and do that.
     
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    Planes leave daily.
     
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    north korea, for example. and i hear they have some delicious rats one can eat.
     
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    But isn't the important thing not allowing citizens to own guns? Surely that has to worth a little rat stew to the OP.
     
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    you’re gonna inspect every single piece of mail i guess. also, you’ll have to ban 3d printers and metalworking.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The standard of living will be to the level of the Nords and Scandinavians in the city. The rest of the country will be envious.
     
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    rat stew?? omg you must think this guy is an elite party member!
     
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    Sounds like a garden spot. Mandatory search every time you re enter the city?
    That’s some power trip you got going on there.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Just send mail though a metal detector and check those. The only "saboteurs" would be from the NRA
     
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    Why go on a plane, prisons are essentially their own little gun free city. Nothing bad happens in prison.
     
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    You realize that you can't have complete private ownership of a city right? If it has public roads leading to it, and the general public are allowed to live in the city, it's subject to all laws and the constitution. Just because a private party owns the land doesn't make it exempt from the constitution.

    What you would need is to have the land granted to you as a non-state, non-territory area, much like Indian Reservations. That way, the city could be considered it's own legal area, seperate from states and federal territories.
     
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