I want to create a large private community that requires gun ownership for residency.

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  1. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    I would like a square mile or 2 to establish a community of only gun enthusiasts. Applicants will have to produce a CHL, military ID, or documentation to prove that they are in law enforcement, a judge, prosecutor, or any other profession that allows them to carry a gun in order to buy property there. All lots will be a minimum of 2 acres. They will provide their own septic systems, electricity, and water wells. Co-oping utilities is allowed. There will be 2 entrance/exits that have automated electronic access gates. The county sheriff and fire department will have access through the gates, but mail service will be a group of locked mail boxes outside the gates. Inside deliveries will have to be escorted by a resident.

    Services will be minimal and so will HOA fees. Any subsequent felony conviction that takes away the residents ability to own a gun will result in $1000/month HOA fees to support roads and fencing infrastructure. Once full, residents can decide what infrastructure is to be provided by the HOA.(gate maintenance, street lights, etc....) HOA will organize a citizens watch program where residents walk, bike, or drive an assigned area at scheduled intervals to watch out for criminal activity. They don't have to intervene, just be a good witness and call the county sheriff. Their gun is only for their protection unless they choose otherwise.

    I'm sure there are kinks to work out. Point them out and let's hone this thing to perfection.
     
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    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    You have enough money to pull this off?
     
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    Texan Well-Known Member

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    No, but as a hypothetical, I'd like to determine that this is plausible as a concept, unlike the other thread. My concept preserves the rights of it's residents and highlights their responsibilities. Why won't this work? Maybe a rich conservative will take this idea and run with it. I'd buy in.

    A square mile is 637 acres if my memory serves me.
     
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    I'm not knocking your proposition. In fact, I'd like to move there. As for utilities and such, I think a better system is for the community to have it's own power plant and water works mainly because some people aren't as handy as others.
     
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    Texan Well-Known Member

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    That's true, but I that would increase infrastructure costs and I would want to attract people who are not in the habit of depending on others. Either through being handy and having skills or being rich enough to pay others to do it. My way would also avoid utility easements, water and electrical lines. Privacy will be better preserved.

    A friend of mine bought an inverter and solar panels. For about $4000(maybe $3200 after federal rebates), he will cut at least $80/month off of his electric bill. After the first 4 years, he will get $80/month for free for the remaining life of his system. Double the system and use your extra electricity to pump your water. For $8000 + the cost of batteries, a well, and septic system, you have no utilities costs other than maintenance for the rest of your life.

    I work on inverters, battery chargers, and such for a living and have access to free used batteries sometimes. I have friends who are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, mechanics, etc... I'd like to start my own little community where we help each other with our skills to cut down living costs. We may could even buy the land together and plan the layout for shared utilities if possible. (community stock tank, tractor, etc.....)
     
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    There wouldnt be any criminal activity.
     
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    Texan Well-Known Member

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    We would have to give it a good name. I was thinking 2A Estates, but then it hit me.

    "POLITE SOCIETY"
     
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    My idea goes further.
    Moat. Walls. Strong point every 200-250 meters.
    Enough land grow food. All houses with enough solar/wind power to run the furnace, freezer and fridge.
    Call it Jericho or Masada.
     
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    That's fine, but it will become cost prohibitive. Having a heavily armed, background checked population should be enough security. Deep culverts and cattle fencing should suffice, but if the HOA does well enough financially, walls can be considered. I'd like to border a lake for some of the land. It will attract money, provide easy access to fishing, and provide security to part of the border. Only outsiders with a boat would have a chance of getting in to cause trouble, and then they would be on foot and vulnerable. The HOA could run a marina to draw money in from outsiders as well.
     
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    I don't know if improvements in technology have changed things, but if you happen to be aware of some of the algae problems we've been dealing with in FL recently, old decrepit septic tanks are a large contributor. If that's not true of more modern ones then things might be different.
     
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    I don't know about that. It may be because the water table is just below the ground there. I'm at 500 ft altitude in the Dallas area. I have been in my house with a nonaerobic septic system and haven't spent a dime on the septic system in the 15 years I've lived here. We send old food down the garbage disposal, and flush our TP. Most food goes to the dogs and chickens if we don't eat it.
     
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    The algae problem is due to politicians being in the pocket of the sugar industry around lake O.
     
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    First off, "Big Sugar" is not around the lake. It's many miles SOUTH of the lake. Second off, at BEST, they contribute about 10% to the problem. Knock it of with the leftist soundbites.
     
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    It was tried. It failed. The Citadel and iii arms.
     
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    The Citadel was a fortified area within a city. I'm talking about a community within commuting distance of employment opportunities. The residents rely on themselves with the assurance that their neighbors are far less likely to commit crime and get in their way to self sufficiency. People will develop friendships and mutual trust with their neighbors and help each other. It's a Citadel composed of smaller personal Citadels and located remotely enough to not allow criminals to get in with any frequency. It is also independent of public utilities and their succeptibility to terrorism, utility outages due to natural disaster, or financial or social collapse. Residents will be encouraged(not required) to fish, garden, raise livestock, provide technical expertise, and barter with their neighbors.
     
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    Guess why no one has done this already
     
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    Commuting distance for jobs? Money? Self reliance with no desire for comradeship?

    I’d still like to try this with 4 or 5 good friends.
     
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    If you have a fast soil percolation rate nothing will go wrong. If you have a very slow soil percolation rate it's hard to make anything go right for very long, no matter what kind of system you put in.

    You're fortunate. Some people in the northeast who live on rock just have a septic tank, period, and have it pumped when full. That's their system. Very expensive, you can't use much water.
     
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    Such a community already exists....
    https://www.aol.com/article/2016/07/28/5-american-cities-that-require-you-to-own-a-gun/21439364/
     
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    I’m looking to move East of Dallas in a couple of years. Gun Barrel City just moved up the list. I like Cedar Creek Lake and am saving for a boat. It might just be a good fit.
     
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    Good luck. It likely would never get much bigger than that
     
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    The funds for the wall come from the sale of the land and the HOA fee.
    There's also an idea for a central lake and wind turbines for access to water and power; the land in question is near a river as well.
     
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    I live in well/septic country, +680 sea level.. Your problem is due to your high water table.
     
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    It's 640 acres.
     
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