I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....

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Can demons be given hope?

  1. No... the demons have zero hope!

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  2. Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. DennisTate

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    No... so I guess he may have exaggerated.....
    Satanists feel quite free to do that.....
    no he was on Ezboard as ChrisCranmer / The Demon Jock... and he said he was the world's most
    famous Satanist due to the controversy surrounding him because he was a member of the British Royal Navy.......
    and came out publicly as a Satanist......
     
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    I agree......
    and one near death experiencer was shown this conversation between Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and.......

     
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    Or...... perhaps true Jewish prophets recognized when
    somebody from another culture spoke the truth.... as well as they
    humanly could speak truth......

    In our time period the amount of correlation between near death experience accounts is so
    astonishing..... that I suspect that Rabbi Alon Anava......
    who had a near death experience when he was 28.... on Passover day......
    might be able to agree with a huge percentage of what was shown to Howard Storm Ph. D.
    during his near death experience.........

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    I don't either......
    I find that many near death experiencers focus so much on what was shown to them......
    during their NDE that they have difficulty relating to somebody else's near death experience.....

    Not all of them make that error... but some do......
    and they are partly correct because they are often given one rather specific mission in life that they
    must try to accomplish..........

    One online friend of mine has such a focus on bringing peace to the Middle East that I
    nominated him to be considered to lead the USA Democratic Party into 2020......


    Nominations for potential leaders for the Democratic Party.

     
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    But for the Grace of G-d.....
    I personally could have gone further and further into the occult myself......

    ...... I am no better than many of the people who have became Satanists......
    I also went through a huge amount of anger against G-d when I was quite young......
    and again when I turned 30 or so and found out that the Soul Sleep Theory was incorrect........


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05c
    The Satanists that I have met online tended to be astonishingly well read.......
    They did not choose the Left Hand Path due to extreme ignorance.......
    but often due to anger over the way that the Gospel.... sounds like pretty terrible news in so many ways.....
    at least as it is usually presented.......

    1. Many called Few Chosen.....
    2. A broad way leading to destruction and many going in thereat....
    3 A narrow way leading to Life (Paradise) and few finding it......
    4 and a very really hell...........
    (On the surface this sounds like a pretty awful plan of salvation)??????

    Matthew 20:16

    “So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.”[fn]

    Matthew 7:13


    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.

    Mat 7:14

    “Because[fn] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

    Matthew 5:29

    “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast itfrom you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell."


    The key to understanding Eventual Universal Salvation......
    is recognition that TIME... .is an INVENTION....
    and since 1 / 7th of time was made for humanity.......
    as an enforced Sabbath / rest ............

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/nkjv/mar/2/27/s_959027
    Mark 2:27


    And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath."

    ... So also.. the other 6/ 7 ths of TIME were made for mankind to lead them from
    point A to point B... mentally, emotionally and spiritually.......
    to get us ready to be able to fit in in Paradise / Heaven........
    and without Humility......
    nobody makes it to heaven..... / paradise.......

    Satanists believe that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan rewards pride........
    I believe that this is a LIE.... and actually......
    Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.... is destroying PRIDE......
    and ridding it out of the universe / Multiverse..............

    If I were asked to guess who Cephas / Peter has reincarnated as.....
    I would guess Pastor Rick Joyner... his books.... The Final Quest... The Call....
    are like the vision of Acts chapter 10 continued and continued and continued........

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

    High Level Satanists believe that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan loves PRIDE and rewards Pride.......
    that is a LIE.....
    Satan is actually destroying pride......
    which is why His Own Followers are all set up to become some of the most courageous Christians who ever walked the earth......

    once they realize that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan......
    is really out to destroy PRIDE.... NOT REWARD IT.......

    SATAN actually hates pride.. .because it is what led to his own fall from the highest levels of heaven......
    as the Covering Cherub....... Satan is busily destroying pride first and foremost in the Temple of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus......

    so of course this message is prophetic:

    Satanism Ending

     
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    I just made my post #16,666 to politicalforum. com
    and I am essentially certain that this is it:

    Democrats are going to win the next election
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-next-election.528368/page-2#post-1068828405

     
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    Cephas / Peter...... was sent both to the Jewish people as well as to the Gentiles.......
    and although he was gifted....... I personally believe the legends that he could not hold a candle to Mary Magdalene...... that Mary knew vastly more than Cephas Peter did........

    it is almost like what was shown to near death experiencer Dr. George Ritchie.... assuming eleven space - time dimensions..... M-Theory ..... it is possible to have a good understanding of what is going on in three invisible dimensions and yet....... miss completely the much larger picture that can only be understood from one or two dimensions further up.........

    If.... George and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus were operating in ninth dimensional space - time energy.... and if this Temple of Wisdom was on the seventh or eighth dimensional energy....... then it is possible for even off the scale intellects to be unable to see what is right beside them.......... In my opinion this is the key to Shalom coming between Polytheists........ essentially all Polytheists...... and Christians... and Jews... and Muslims who are open to Islamic Mysticism......
    and Hindus and Buddhists and basically all peoples!

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05e

     
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    Basically.... this is for our grandchildren........
    IF..... a significant number of leading Satanists......
    will follow my example.... and volunteer to become
    metaphorical "goats for Azazel".........(whatever that means because
    even though I am one I am not one hundred percent certain of what I got myself into exactly).... but........
    I do know that the Ancient of Days the Father is afflicted in all our affliction........
    and if I truly love the One who Messiah Yeshua - Jesus said was greater than him.....
    and was actually doing the miracles........

    ... then by volunteering to participate in a modern Yom Kippur event.......
    I can set something in motion that can alter the whole formula.......
    and give G-d joy..... which G-d gets over even one sinner who does Teshuva!

    Kind of like getting out of the Mafia.......
    this may be one of the only possible "Get out of Satanism Free cards".....
    available to many Satanists.............

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tate4centralnova/my-correspondence-with-rabbi-t383.html#.VsDYdsf8iOw

    Rabbi ........, linking Jerusalem Third Temple with Grand Unified Theory of Modern World Problems.Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:00 PM
     
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    My goal for this discussion.... is nothing less than something like this:

    Jdg 7:18

    As soon as I and those with me blow the rams’ horns, blow your horns, too, all around the entire camp, and shout, ‘For the LORD and for Gideon!’”

    It was just after midnight,[fn] after the changing of the guard, when Gideon and the 100 men with him reached the edge of the Midianite camp. Suddenly, they blew the rams’ horns and broke their clay jars.

    Then all three groups blew their horns and broke their jars. They held the blazing torches in their left hands and the horns in their right hands, and they all shouted, “A sword for the LORD and for Gideon!”

    Each man stood at his position around the camp and watched as all the Midianites rushed around in a panic, shouting as they ran to escape.

    When the 300 Israelites blew their rams’ horns, the LORDcaused the warriors in the camp to fight against each other with their swords. Those who were not killed fled to places as far away as Beth-shittah near Zererah and to the border of Abel-meholah near Tabbath.
     
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    understanding that 'satanists' are just as human as Christians might assist. Only 'satanists' use the idea of 'satan' for doing what they do and Christians use God as the reason for doing what they do. There are truthful Christians and not so truthful Christians. I'm sure there are truthful 'satanists' and not so truthful satanists, as well.

    Remember that the first mention of 'satan' in The Holy Bible is in 1 Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."


    'Satan' here is no other than David's own heart that was lifted up within himself.
     
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    Delade... was I way, way off in stating my misgivings about the Christian Gospel
    as it began to look to me back around 1990?

    Could the Christian gospel be much worse news?

    Did the basic Christian Gospel / Good News.... ever begin to look like pretty bad news to you as well?
     
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    I am almost certain it was 1990..... I was close to suicide... in order to go directly to hell to find Azazel and send him to heaven......... I had a bullet in the 30.30 to kill myself with...... while I prayed and considered my next move.... I had a weird experience.... a fallen angel who looked like the proverbial Pan.... said to me......."What doest thou here Elijah?" I looked to the right... and saw darkness... I looked left.. and saw darkness... I clued he meant me.... and decided to NOT kill myself.. .and took the bullet out of the chamber of the 30.30..... and staggered out of my prayer closet......

    So thank you for putting up with me Tecoyah..... I am indeed a weird person........
    I was taking way too much of the nutritional product Matol back in those days... and my brain kind of blew up on me....... I haven't touched the stuff since 1999.......

    In a way... what I had was at least somewhat like a near death experience.... but I met a fallen angel who looked like Pan???????????
     
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    "I want to start an online outreach to Satanists...."

    If this is the case you should start with the Christian Fundamentalists and then move on to the Catholic Church.

    These folks are far more "anti - Christ" for the most part.
     
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    The idea that Leviticus was referring to Azazel as a fallen angel is simply false. Why on earth would YHWH have the Israelite's make send a sacrificial goat to appease a "fallen angel".

    The Israelite's believed in a Divine Pantheon. While they believed in the existence of many Gods - YHWH was their God and the only one they were supposed to worship. They were NOT - strict monotheists. They only worshiped one God but they believed in many.

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2203-azazel

    The "Azazel" was an fallen angel diatribe comes from writings that came long after Leviticus ... and from a time where the writers were notorious for trying to obscure the Israelite belief in the divine pantheon with "EL, Enlil, Elyon" as the head of that pantheon.
     
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    Those are very interesting comments indeed.......
    I knew essentially nothing about Azazel until I read the Book of Enoch........
    and I feel unworthy to argue with the basic theme of that writing that was a part of the Christian canon for four or five centuries at least.

    https://reluctant-messenger.com/1enoch01-60.htm

    I think that it is interesting that according to Orthodox Jewish scholar Yair Davidiy my mom's family would be partly from the Tribe of Dan.... and partly Zeraite Jewish.

    www.Britam.org/

    In a way.... it is like Azazel.... .whoever he was.... by asking our great, great, great..... grandfather the Patriarch Enoch to pray for him........ was in a sense throwing him a football..... but Enoch replied......... essentially.........

    "If I pray for you....... who is going to pray for me?"

    Well..... I sure tried my best to catch that football.... and run with it.......
    beginning back in 1990 around Yom Kippur that year.


    I explained that to Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander back in 2010:


    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tate4centralnova/my-correspondence-with-rabbi-t383.html#.WNuNN1KZOV4
     
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    Truly a valid point.........
    I have the funny feeling that many dozens..... if not hundreds...... if not thousands..... if not tens of thousands of people who term themselves "Satanists"..... .or ATheists.... with Satanist tendencies.........
    may actually be far, far, far, far far more willing to recognize the Being of Light of NDE fame........
    as being one of the greatest intellects in the Universe / Multiverse than perhaps at least thirty percent of Christian Fundamentalists or Roman Catholics might be willing to do at this time?!

    The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan?

     
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    Keep in mind that Enoch was written long after the time of Leviticus ... estimated dating is around 100 BC - long after the time when Judaism had transformed into a strictly monotheistic religion. The whole depiction of "fallen angels battling for the world" would have made no sense to the ancient Israelite's. There was a battle alright .. but it was a battle between "Gods".

    I think you will like this one a lot. http://www.jhsonline.org/Articles/article_144.pdf
     
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    Yes... after the first couple of paragraphs this does indeed look good.......
    Here is my first major mentor into philosophy speaking on the Fate of Satan:



    Obviously.... I personally am on quite a different page than I once was when I was a teenager listening to everything that Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong spoke about!

    I personally now think that many of the fallen angels may well be in the mentality of Stanley Milgram Ph. D. who deceived "Teacher Subjects"... .into zapping "Learner Subjects"...... because he wanted to better understand the extreme obedience to Authority Figures that the Nuremburg Trials were showing the world about.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment


    My theory is that Satan.... .HATES PRIDE..... because it led to his own fall.... so when he comes to the earth with great wrath...... he will actually be out to humble everybody........... absolutely everybody................ especially people who claim to be religious or spiritual!?????
     
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    Wow..... at the one hour and fifty minute mark in this video Rabbi Alon Anava states that a woman....... can accomplish as much with one prayer per day.......... as a man can in three prayers / day plus by doing a bunch more things............

    I have noticed this throughout my life........







    If more women than men make it into heaven then…….?
     
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    OK...... I have to admit that I am in no position to rule out the possibility that the scary creature that came up after Mr. Jim Woodford during his NDE....... could be the sum total of all his fears....... and guilt ...... and shame....... and pride.... and insecurity.... and feelings of inferiority............ .combined into something that could resemble an Artificial Intelligence that some of our scientists may well soon create??????!

    But...... whatever it was.... it did not exist in four dimensional space - time where electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force are all separate from each other............... it had to be at least fifth space - time dimensional........ or higher energetic than that.... .sixth would be more likely............ at 22 minute mark in video.....



    Oh... the lazer beam thingie that the angel blasts the demon with...... could actually have been HOPE.... in the form of a lazer beam....... which takes us back to page one.... post #2 here.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...start-an-online-outreach-to-satanists.517921/

     
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    ~OR~....His Imagination.
     
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    Or his imagination.... that is a valid point.......
    Albert Einstein:
     
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    Yes........... if we will at least give Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.......
    and Abner Paul Azazel Baalzebub..... and
    Mary Magdalene Delilah Jezebel Lilith.......credit for being off the scale intelligent..........
    then we Christians or Messianic Jews or Messianic Gentiles can at least
    view the actions of the fallen angels with a greater level of empathy and understanding.


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    Much of the chicken that I personally eat is NOT FREE RANGE... therefore
    in a very real sense I suspect that I personally am guilty of what Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan was attempting when he appointed himself the Adversary against the Ancient of Days the Father who Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated plainly was the One doing the miracles........ not himself!

    My suspicion is that much as we humans farm chicken, fish, cattle and other creatures.... .so also Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan had in mind to save the fallen angels..... by pushing Eve and Adam and their children and grandchildren further and further and further..... .into suffering, pain, despair, guilt....... in order to destroy our PRIDE.... which Satan hates...... because it led to his own fall away from his Father...... who he still actually loves........ although his actions and teachings would not indicate that he does?!


    https://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html




    John 5:19 ¶ So Jesus explained, “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the Father doing. Whatever the Father does, the Son also does."

    John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."

    John 20:17 “Don't cling to me,” Jesus said, “for I haven't yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'”

    John 12:49 "I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it."

    Matthew 20:23 "Jesus told them, “You will indeed drink from my bitter cup. But I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen.”

    Matthew 24:36 “However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself.[fn] Only the Father knows."

    One of the major differences between Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is the true and genuine humility of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus...... but...... Satan is an off the scale brilliant actor.... .even better than Anthony Hopkins......and his pride...... COULD BE AN ACT???????????????!
     
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    Question:
    What country would have the highest numbers in 'satan worship'?
     
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    I am thinking that it would be high in Haiti......
    but apparently it is more prevalent in North America than we think......
    but they usually claim to be Atheists........
     

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