I Was A Racist Cop: How I came to recognize my own racism, bias, and privilege

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  1. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so you're claiming... what... if the US never had blacks?

    Boring basketball and no rap?
     
  2. Diuretic

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    How would you know what he's writing about if you don't read it? I found it interesting because I could identify with some of his ideas.
    As for neo-Marxist theory, not sure about that, I don't know enough about orthodox Marxist theory to even begin to comment on the latest variety.
     
  3. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't bother, some people just don't want to see what they don't see ...
     
  4. Empress

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    The headline says plenty. It IS neo-Marxist social theory; a Marxist-based view applied to race instead of classical Marxian thought on class conflict.

    The "white privilege" concept comes out of Critical Theory which came from the Frankfurt School of Marxism.
     
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    Acting like I said what I didn't say isn't an argument.

    I hope you didn't get tennis elbow beating that straw man.
     
  6. Diuretic

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    It's entirely possible that Marx didn't write on race/ethnicity, but since I've only read a little of his work I don't know. And I haven't read much from the Frankfurt School so I can't really comment on that either. And I'm not sure White Privilege isn't just old fashioned Privilege, regardless of ethnicity. And on Privilege, Frederick Douglass mentioned it never gave up without a struggle. Removing Privilege is the point, not its ethnicity.
     
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    Life on Earth is Temporally, If you are born white or Black Life will end at some point and your body will rot no different , The question is will your creator Judge you according to your race? We are so involved with matters of mortality that we always forget the bigger picture. I am certain those who carry hate and look down upon any of the Creator's children will suffer the consequences. Hating on Blacks, will not pay my bills , make me feel good or solve my life problems neither is hate a recipe for prosperity if people feel superior to blacks let them it is not by choice for people to choose their race but we do have a choice how we treat each other. I found the article interesting and guilty of laughing along to similar examples of racial jokes. Deep down it never felt right . Worth to note that majority of Cops are descent and have a good heart those turning this topic into ridiculing blacks I promise you will have to answer your actions in this life or next. Reagan Conservative here no snowflake come backs.
     
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    White run society is privileged with the burden of low IQ black and brown people.

    What exactly is white privilege if resources and rights are taken in echange for nothing in return?

    Blacks and browns experience the highest quality of life in the world in white nations and return the gift of living with whites by burdening and agitating against whites.
     
  9. Empress

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    And that's why you think Critical Theory "white privilege" crap has any legitimacy. You haven't read what it is and where it comes from.

    I didn't say Marx wrote about ethnicity; I said Marxist theory was APPLIED to race, hence the term neo-Marxists.

    What is this "removing privilege"? What does that mean? That's a very vague term. Are you advocating for Communism?
     
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    Advocating for communism? How did you get that?
     
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    It's believable. And that's from me, an over 60 white guy. I actually feel empathy for the minorities that might be victims of a racist police & legal system and I'm smart enough to know that today if it can happen to any minority group, then one day in the future, I could become a minority group and be treated the same. I think many white people feel a similar way.

    Ok, with that said, we can probably all agree that a certain number (likely a low percentage) of police are rotten apples and need to be sorted out, booted out or even punished by the legal system. So I ask, what is that average percentage of bad apples and what is the profile of the communities where it is highest and lowest? There needs to be an honest study of this issue.

    Then I ask, working from those percentages and profiles, show me the list of punitive or corrective actions & convictions that proves justice has been done. The numbers tell the truth, but only if we can get an accurate & honest study of the issue. I suspect that most people, except the true racists, would get behind such an effort.

    HOWEVER, all this taking a knee crap has to stop. It's not working and only turning more people against the very cause they are trying to fix.

    --pete--
     
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  12. Empress

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    Didn't say you were. Countless people are parroting Marxist theory without realizing it, especially this "white privilege" fad.
     
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    All Liberalism, Leftism, and PC, isn't "Neo-Maxism" or "Communism."
    I think you're over the top here with doctrine labeling.
    Most of these people are just PC.
    There are plenty of Conservative PCers as well.
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    I'm explaining where this specific doctrine comes from.
     
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    Are you? Can you prove for example that the concept of White privilege is directly related to Marxism? In my experience racists often throw the word Marxism around like a buzzword to discredit any argument from their egalitarian opponents when their views have nothing to do with Karl Marx or communism.
     
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    Good thing he is not in law enforcement anymore and should now have NO connection to it.
     
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    Somebody does not know.
    If an employee is employed in a research and development position and it results in a success and a product, it remains company property, generally that employee cannot patent or profit from any results.
     
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    Okay then. But I do think there is such a thing as white privilege in the US at least. In other nations where race is not such a big deal it's just good old class privilege.
     
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    "White privilege" is a concept coined in a 1987 essay by a Berkeley radical. It's one of the dumbest, most mindless pieces of writing I've ever read. It's nearly as bad as the Quran.

    The entire foundational philosophy of the concept is crap.
     
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    That's about the truth of it here in Savannah Georgia. I was almost murdered back in 2013 by 5 morons trying to rob me and suffered permanent injuries from the attack. Cops never did anything about it or caught the guys. Later on down the road I had a cop threaten me for walking out the front door of my house to ask my wife what the hell is going on with one of our kids and why where the cops at our house. Let him know if the 5 guys who tried to murder me that they were to busy eating their donuts to do their job to catch couldn't drop me then his little nair ass wasn't gonna do anything. My white privilege. lol ;)
     
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    Pure Hogwash, I did not get killed in today's traffic stop, and I was Armed with my Glock 17, credentials and actually set the tone for the stop from the beginning, the RFID worked like a charm etc...
     
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    Of course it is directly related to Marxism in that it is based on a view of society as a constant conflict between groups - it is the rhetoric of Proletariat vs Bourgeoisie applied to Sociology. Every relation is viewed as one of power and there can never be co-operation between groups because the "bourgeoisie" will always oppress the "proles".

    "White Privilege Theory" is directly related to Post-Colinialism that is an inherently Marxist idea and it overlaps with the Marxist ideas of Kimberly Crenshaw who coined the term "Intersectionality".
     
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    It is entirely crap in its analysis, but not in terms of empirics. Here in Sweden the same type of idiots use a related term they call "The Whiteness Norm" and it is actually true that there is a "Whiteness Norm" in Sweden because Whiteness is the norm (shocking, right?) and not because "whites oppress blacks everywhere all the time!" Go to Zimbabwe and you will have your "Blackness Norm" or "Black Privilege" or go to Asia and discover the "Yellowness Norm/Privilige".

    Yes, there is some form of "White Privilege" in America because America is a white country! This "White Privilege" - however- is not anything near as exaggerated in its form as the Marxist claim.
     
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    What nonwhites were on the Mayflower?
    Which of the people that signed the Declaration of Independence were nonwhite? Articles of Confederation? Constitution of the United States?

    Many years ago I went to work for a company. While the investors and the money guys were sitting on their ass and watching me, I instituted the accounting system, set up the warehouse, inventory system, etc. When you're through being part of the paid labor, all you did was contribute.
     
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