1. Santa is tracked by NORAD Satellites. With Google imaging and on sight evidence at major cities. http://www.noradsanta.org/ 2. Global governments clearly know this so its supported by even hostile nations to us like China, Iran and Russia since none go on alert when he is traveling. 3. The clear image due to the warping of magic powers make it look animated but being a "merry old elf" has miraculous powers to defy natural law. 4. Many millions of children believe in him so can they be wrong? 5. Parents would never deceive children with anything but the truth and present from Santa are under millions and millions of trees. 6. This has been verified by NORAD for sixty years without any counter theory apposing Santa being real. 7. He promotes love, peace and merriment therefore is morally true since many are happy on the holiday and superior to Jesus who has no such evidence of existing. So I was wrong Santa as a miraculous force is demonstrated. Well unlike Jesus, Allah, God and such there is evidence for Santa.
Well you are free to not believe in God but nobody really cares. If you are trying to convince us believers well again, we don't really care.
He knows when you are sleeping, he knows if you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake. Sounds like Jesus to me. Maybe Santa is actually Jesus in disguise.
How arrogant and dishonest for someone to claim they speak for everyone.... ....sheesh, The believer...The Arrogant... - - - Updated - - - NO! Santa would not torture you forever because you made a mistake and he delivers to the poor and non-whites, too! Judging from the Jesus believers in here, that's not what Jesus would do.
Yeh, being cast in the lake of fire is much better. Its certain something that Jesus would do. I wonder how many people got sent to hell this day? Well, only 1 thing to say to them. Merry Christmas and Jesus loves you. What? You don't think so? Comon, god is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. If he knows everything thend he surly knows if you would go to heaven or hell when you died even before you are born. He knows everything after all. He's god, right? It only makes sense. Where is the free will in that. To humans it might seem like free will. But to god who knows everything, you are like an ant traped in a sandbox with a predetermined course. And if God didn't know this then he wouldn't be all those omnis and thus not a god. A god is perfect in every way right? The talk of the great plan that God has only reinforces the notion of predeterminism. And then there is the book of life. The bible doesn't mention whether or not this book is completed, only that if your name is not in it, you will go to hell. If my guess is right, god already has already knows who goes to heaven or hell(because he's god) and recorded it in the book of life. But I'm sure your suffering in hell is hurting him more than its hurting you.....I think.
Yes, I agree! Until last night I was a Modern Secular Humanist, but last night a saw a film that had this wonderful thing in it called "The Force", and it looked very very real, I can assure you! So now I too, tkolter, believe in the supernatural! I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes! Thank god (yes, I can do that now) that I'm not "limited" by science anymore! This is a very very liberating feeling!
Yes, sadly....if only, if only this "god" fellow was all-powerful, and was loving, then he'd obviously change this barbaric scheme to be more compassionate. If only. We can dream, can't we.
You're one of the best posters I've ever seen on this forum, Fallen, but you've gone too far this time!! Shame on you!! How DARE you imply that my favorite jolly elf is Jesus!! Santa would have spoken up against slavery (a self-proclaimed moral teacher not standing up against the biggest crime ever is insane), unlike "Jesus"! Santa would let Gandhi into "heaven", because Santa is not a prick, unlike you-know who! If Santa was considered by Muslims to be their messiah (like Jesus/Isa is), he'd care about us enough to work hard to educate the Muslims that they got this Jihad thing all wrong! ...that's because my favorite elf is far more moral than "Jesus". So take it back, Fallen!!
Yes, of course god knows everything! Well, er, uh, he doesn't know that killing innocent people (gays, and the innocent children that god killed in the Bible) is wrong. And, uh, he doesn't know that women should not be considered to be worth "half a man". Er, he doesn't know that slavery is the ultimate crime against humanity, he approves of beating slaves who even die (after 48 hours, though.) He doesn't know that genocide is wrong, as he himself committed genocide against virtually all humans AND against virtually all innocent animals in his barbaric "flood"....killing more people than Hitler and Charles Manson combined. .....I'd better stop right here, because I'm starting to think that maybe he DOESN'T know everything after all...and one implication of that would be that the Bible is maybe lying to me and I won't be able to cheat death after all. Yikes!!
Correct - apparently religious people don't care about us, or they'd change most of their prayers to pray to their god to stop keeping the court-room level of evidence for his divinity from us, finally, after all these years. Their "god" could release the proof that he has that he's actually real (and then we'd avoid eternal torture), but he chooses to keep holding on tight to said proof. If he's all-powerful, and real, then he'd have said proof, obviously.
