Idiots with guns, once again

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the jackass who is picking fight might also be armed.
     
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    For that we'd really need to issue every citizen an arm too. 2 actually sidearm and rifle.
    For the children!
     
  3. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally impossible, the NRA is a non-profit organization, as such they are forbidden by IRS regulations from making political contributions.
     
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    You’re excused from being naive. Faux News p, your only source, doesn’t tell you everything.
    The NRA has a political action committee — the National Rifle Association of America Political Victory Fund, or NRA-PVF — it is registered with the Federal Election Commission. As a PAC, political action committee, it donates funds to politicians. The Official NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is NRA's political action committee.

    Website, do you feel uninformed now ?
    https://www.nrapvf.org/
     
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  5. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I quote FOX News?

    Hardly, but being a Life member I do understand the NRA and it's sub organizations.

    The PVF is part of the ILA and is for profit, and being a PAC must disclose the sources of it's funding to the FEC.
     
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    The NRA PVF is part of the NRA and is managed by them.
    So the nra uses the NRA PVF Which is a
    PAC, you do know what a pac is ? You are incorrect. about the NRA.
     
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  7. perdidochas

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    That's a separate organization. Money donated to the NRA proper is used primarily for training, sponsoring shooting competitions, keeping the magazines going, and keeping the organization going. No money directly donated to the NRA goes towards political candidates. The NRAPVF is a separate organization. If your claim was true, the NRA would be breaking the law.
     
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    Don’t play games. You’re naive or slow. The NRA officials manage the NRA PVF.

    The Toyota Foundation is a non profit too. It’s managed by Toyota America which is the parent corporation for all Toyota subsidiaries including the commercial side.

    If you kiss the NRAs asteroid, you will get political donations from the NRA PVF
    They are not separate organizations, any more then the Clinton Foundation is separate from Bill Clinton. Some how, you guys are special even though you sleep with the Russians....
     
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    If you don't think they are separate organizations, have the IRS investigate them. Legally speaking they are, just like Bill Clinton is legally separate from the Clinton Foundation. The NRA follows the rules of separation to the T.
     
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    Oh ho, we have an eagle, globe and anchor racist!
     
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    You need a course in business or you need to read my example on Toyota. I’d gladly give you the Toyota website or I’d just keep enabling you to be slow. The NRA is the controlling entity. It’s not illegal to have commercial and a non profit foundation and a PAC under the same organization.
    The NRA is swimming in Russian influence, has been for years. Mueller will tell us how the funds were distributed.
     
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  12. dagosa

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    Wrong. Bill Clinton is a member of the governing board.

    “According to the Clinton Foundation's website, neither Bill Clinton nor his daughter, Chelsea Clinton (both are members of the governing board), draws any salary or receives any income from the Foundation. When Hillary Clinton was a board member she reportedly also received no income from the Foundation”
    He is a member of the governing board “
     
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    Go to the nra/PVF website.
    Mission statement of he NRA/ PVF
    Do you know what a mission statement is ??

    Can you read it ? It IS THE NRA ‘s PAC.


    (The NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is NRA's political action committee. The NRA-PVF ranks political candidates - irrespective of party affiliation - based on voting records, public statements and their responses to an NRA-PVF questionnaire.

    NRA relies on a very simple premise: when provided with the facts, the nation's elected officials will recognize that "gun control" schemes are an infringement on the Second Amendment and a proven failure in fighting crime. The importance of this premise lies in the knowledge that, as one U.S. Congressman put it: "The gun lobby is people.")
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Russia didn't care who won. They have good blackmail on both Trump and Hillary. Their real goal was U.S. election instability. Once voters stop trusting the elections, then the country deteriorates. The Russians succeeded, or at least started the process.
     
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    The process was started the moment the united states began moving away from paper ballots that cannot be hacked, and towards electronic voting machines that are error-prone.
     
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    And that is only one part of what the PVF does, the PVF is not the NRA, but a separate NRA subsidiary founded by Harlon Carter, the money side is operated by the ILA which is a for profit registered lobby, headed up by Chris Cox.

    You need to get your so called facts straight.
     
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    Totally incorrect the ILA manages the NRA PVF, two different groups with a common cause.
     
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    And under Obama they would have been put out of business by the IRS, but that didn't happen because the claim is blatantly false.
     
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    I love it that these to chicken **** a$$clowns have been charged with 1st degree murder. Let’s see how brave and tough they are in prison...:banana::applause::clapping::roflol:
     
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    Another person who can’t read. It’s on their web site. Do you know what apostrophe S means when not a contraction ? It’s possessive.
    You keep posting contrary to what their own website says and everyone won’t suspect you’re naive, they’ll know it.
     
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  21. perdidochas

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    I agree with you 100%.
     
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    Maybe you should learn how to comprehend what you read!

    "As chairman of NRA’s Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF), Cox has directed NRA’s electoral efforts at every level. From presidential campaigns to congressional, state and local races, NRA has achieved unprecedented success under Cox’s leadership.

    In fact, of the hundreds of federal elections in which NRA-ILA and the Political Victory Fund participated during 2014, more than 90% of the candidates who had the NRA's endorsement won their elections. And today, NRA members benefit from tremendous political support in congressional, gubernatorial and state legislative offices across the country."

    https://www.nrapvf.org/about-pvf/

    Note the NRA PVF is part of the NRA-ILA

    The NRA is a training and safety organization and is not part of the NRA-ILA or the NRA-PVF.

    Have I made that simple enough for you yet?
     
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    You are absolutely insane.
    Read your own post. Cox is chair of the NRA PVF. and also directs the NRA ‘s electoral efforts at every level. Then you make this statement.

    The NRA is a training and safety organization and is not part of the NRA-ILA or the NRA-PVF.
    Then you try to tell me they are completely separate organizations while saying Cox is chair of the NRA PVF and leads the NRA at the same time..
    Lolololololololololo
    Get off the internet, you’re embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Totally incorrect once again.

    The NRA is headed up by Oliver North the President of the NRA with Wayne Robert LaPierre as the EVP.

    You really are clueless about the NRA aren't you?

    Time to get off the internet, you’re embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Read your own post. Youre from Ozzzz. Read it.read it read it.
    Tell me what it says in the area I quoted...do it. YOUR WORDS.
    Cox has directed NRA’s electoral efforts at every level.
     
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