If a sterotype is true is it racist?

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If a sterotype is true is it racist?

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  2. No

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I've read where we lost the hair because of needing to get rid of internally generated heat once we came out of the trees and started running our prey down over the plains. Sweating isn't nearly so efficient for that if you're really hairy.

    And whether white skin is attractive is more cultural than anything. In the early 19th century the "milk-white" or "alabaster" skin was the most prized and this was largely because a healthy tan was a sign that you were lower class and had to work outdoors. People also didn't regard beaches as resorts until the early 20thc and nobody who had any kind of money ever went swimming as a recreation. In the days before Central Heating you could very easily "catch your death" if you got entirely wet in anything but the hottest weather, so bathing in any way was a reluctant necessity not the enjoyable luxury we regard it as.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Is that a fedora?
     
  3. dairyair

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    How is that racist? Or even true?
     
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    Better runner and jumpers. Doesn't make all of them better athletes. It would be a stereotype to say X will beat Y in a race because X is black and Y is white. For every black will not beat every white.

    Are blacks more superior in pole vaulting, weightlifting, figure skating? So they are not better athletes, just better at some type of athletic event.
     
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    If you grew a pair, you'd get over it. JK, a joke.
     
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    Don't know if anyone else has argued this point but I'm going to. A racist is, as you pointed out, one who believes a race (not necessarily their own race but usually) is superior to all others, or that a race is inferior to others. However, noting that a given race is superior in a trait is not claiming that the overall race is superior. So believing that blacks have superior UV protection is not racist, since it is not making a claim about the race overall.
     
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    It depends on how it is used. Most stereotypes appeal to ignorance.

    The only two Irishmen I know don't drink.
     
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    Racism is defined more by motivation, than facts.

    Racists love to take truths out of context and extrapolate them to the point of absurdity.
     
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    When an Irishman tells me all Irishmen get drunk to excess, my first thought is that this is an Irishman with a drinking problem.
     
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    No, if you only ingested beer and potatoes you would eventually become quite ill.

    So yeah, go for it!!!
     
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    yes and no. Racism resides where people believe it resides
     
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    Naw. Not a good joke. Better one is what you write above the urinals: Why are you looking up here when the joke's in your hand?

    But, back to racism. Everybody has been programmed to think being a racist is a bad thing, though deep down inside, virtually everybody is racist - only to degrees. We try to assure each other how "bad" it is by criticizing and discriminating against racists while cutting other groups a lot of slack and leeway. Racists see through it for what it is.
     
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    It's programmed that way because in the USA it was bad for a long long time. Keeping blacks as 3rd rare citizens for so long.
     
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    Cry me a river. The whites weren't the only people who participated in slavery. Plenty of non-white nations have and continue to practice slavery.
     
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    Wow, what a sensitive little snowflake response this is. Guilty?
    Afraid of truth?
    And in the 1950s and 1960s it wasn't slavery that was making them 3rd class citizens.
    You are probably old enough to witness the white only bathroom, white only drinking fountain. No coloreds in this restaurant.
    Not a damn thing to do with slavery.
     
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    Sensitive about what? Yeah, blacks got discriminated against. Today, it's the whites and everybody has some cockamamie excuse as to why they should be able to discriminate. I'm not sensitive about anything. We've also had signs up in America that read No Irish Need Apply... and we've discriminated against the Italians ("wops" if the word don't get censored.)

    BFD. Today, you'd be lucky to be able to remain on most of these type discussion boards if you stood up and said you were a white, Christian, gun owning, Bible toting American. Introduce yourself that way and you'd be banned on three quarters of the boards like this one.

    I'm not sensitive. Matter of fact, if you discriminate in your private business or on your private property - even if you tell me I'm not welcome, I can live with it.
     
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    Whites are discriminated today?
    There are bathrooms whites can't go in? Drinking fountains whites can't drink from? Restaurants that whites can't go into? LOL.
     
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    Don't take much for you to amuse yourself by, does it?

    Today's discrimination is much more subtle. It's more about double standards and locking some people out.
     
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    What specifically have you been discriminated?
     
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    The word "stereotype" is most always not completely true which means it is also false so, I think the poll is flawed from the outset.

    "a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."
    https://www.google.com/#q=stereotype
     
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    The first time (and there are many times after that) began when I tried to get into college. I dropped out of high school, took the GED and applied to go college. Due to a scoring system in those days, I was turned down for 7/8ths of one point! Had I been black and / or a woman, I would have gotten in that year with 18 points to spare.

    So, I had to go back to regular high school and do the senior year (but then grants and so forth made the time inconvenience a little more worthwhile), but it was still discrimination.

    Once I worked for construction company (just after getting out of high school.) The union cut my job and the jobs of other whites due to affirmative action quotas. Well, there were no jobs back then and becoming a Seabee turned out to be the better option... a smaller paycheck, but they do pay for your education and the grants were helping out.

    A few years ago I worked for a company that sold out and lost most of their business due to 9 / 11. So, not wanting to be unemployed, went to one of those temp agencies that hire temp to perm. They looked over my resume' and I had applied, telling them I would consider any kind of work and any pay scale to stay off unemployment. They claimed to have no available jobs.

    At about that moment, another recruiter in that company asks two shabbily dressed Jamaicans if she can help them. They say they are looking for jobs and the lady says "we have some positions available, why don't you sit down and fill out an application."

    I walked right back to the recruiter I spoke to and told her what was going on. She told me I was "over-qualified." I called BS on that right then and there. I told her that I could do as much work as both of those two combined and if I failed, she was free to forget any money I had coming. The real reason I was discriminated against was the pure and simple fact, I was over 40 and white.

    My brother was denied a supervisory position at Circuit City some years ago in a warehouse. Reason? He didn't speak Spanish... WTH??? Shouldn't people working in America be required to speak English???

    I see discrimination in housing, credit, jobs and many whites are prejudiced against their own kind. I just underwent some surgeries and am rehabbing right now. But, I worked for a company that had 55 employees at the location I was at. Of those , only half a dozen were white. Because I am of Irish and Scottish descent, I looked "spanish" to my interviewer and I had worked in immigration law. That is how I got my position. People thought I was a foreigner.

    Don't try and convince people that discrimination does not happen.
     
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    So, going by your last sentence, is it true that the following two sayings would also be racist?:

    1) White men can't jump. And,
    2) White women can't hump.
     
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    You mean, you're not a "Tea-(insert the rest here)?"

    ROTFL!!
     
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    I'd say no. every stereotype is based off what the group as a whole is more inclined to do.
     
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    My wife's always been a blonde, she gets it colored now, but the process is unknown.
     

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