If Biden wins, he should pardon Donald Trump

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  1. struth

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    I am not conflicted about it.

    It is a crime to lie to Congress, and the crime is prosecuted by the Executive branch. Congress doesn't prosecute even Hillary. The DOJ was run by Obama when she was under investigation and they decided not to prosecute
     
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    I'll jump in just for precise clarification. Courts do not prosecute. Only the Dept. of Justice can prosecute federal crimes, and they decide what to prosecute. I don't know what you mean by INITIATE, but if you mean piss and moan, and gripe and complain congress can certainly do that. But Congress cannot appoint a special prosecutor. It is a crime to lie under oath to congress, but only the DOJ can prosecute such crime if the crime is referred to them and they choose to do so. For instance DOJ, for reasons known only to them, rejected prosecution of Hillary for lying under oath to congress as Comey attested under oath to congress.
     
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    Wrong.....it can also be by a congressional appointed prosecutor and brought before a federal judge,
    What you’re really saying is, the gop is incompetent ? ?
    You're living in a dream world repeating the same hog wash. First, Trump has been president for the first two years with both houses of Congress. BOTH. Where were the investigations of Hill and Biden ?
    Second, either house can hire a special prosecutor to bring their case before a federal judge, as neither are in the executive branch.

    this constant dribble pretends the GOP has not had the government for 4 years and at least one house for six years prior.
    So you never watched the News ?
     
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  4. struth

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    No Congress doesn't appoint prosecutors. well yes, crimes are prosecuted by the Executive Branch in the Judicial branch.

    Not sure what you are talking about....Congress being GOP for two years and investigations of Hill and Biden? Why would htey have investigated Biden? and they had just finished a long investigation of Clinton.

    No Congress can not appoint prosecutors and prosecute crimes
     
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    Not a ****ing chance
     
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    Ha ha
    The judicial branch is NOT IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. they are separate. Read the constitution.
     
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    True... but the DOJ is. That’s an issue that should be addressed
     
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    You said the judicial branch was. Why don’t you re read how Stone and others were prosecuted for lying to Congress. Huh ?
     
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    Oh, you forgot watergate ...
    “In response to the Watergate scandal, Congress created an “independent counsel” statute that would allow it, in certain circumstances, to request the appointment of a special prosecutor by the attorney general.“
    Re. Archibald Cox.
     
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    yeah that law no longer exist. It ended after Clinton. And the Court appointed the SP then
     
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    i didn’t say it was. I said that’s where the Executive branch prosecutes crimes....in the courtroom
     
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    Congress cannot prosecute crimes........ period.
     
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    As has been pointed out...Congress can and has done so...in the Nixon case
     
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    As has been pointed out ad nauseum, congress did not prosecute Nixon.
     
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    No, they passed a provision to have one appointed....
     
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    #479
    “crimes are prosecuted by the Executive Branch in the Judicial branch.”
    Your words. Sure sounds like it.
     
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    I don’t think the statement you referenced says that.
     
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    yes that they are prosecuted in the judical branch...literally in a courthouse
     
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    Orange is the new black..
     
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    I hope you can understand the confusion if this is what you meant by restating it,
     
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    The congress initiated it then, it could have again, especially with their own attorney general. The last four years, Mueller was when The DOJ was given the evidence. Obviously, there was none for Hillary, Obama and the family Biden.

    The point is, there has been nothing to Indicate any wrong doing in the Biden camp. Trump Humpers can wish all they want, but Trump is a third world dictator calling for prosecution of his political opponents...when the gop had 4 years to do it and controlled both houses and the admin for two. It’s a joke, Trump is a traitor and the gop is the number one enabler. .
     
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    Sure Congress, just like with Mueller can suggest strongly one should be appointed.

    I agree we are already seeing a push from some in Congress to get a Special Prosecutor in place for the Biden family criminal probe...and certainly if he wins, and there isn't a resolution to the current probe one should be appointed
     
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    I suppose, no worries
     
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    Obviously it depends upon who controls the Congress. Really, compared to Trump an overt traitor, Biden is a Saint. 117 to 1.
     
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    How's Trump a traitor? He's not the one getting 10 percent kickbacks from China, or openly asked Xi to help him win an election, nor is he accepting the help of the leading state sponsor of terror, Iran.
     

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