If Gays want to Marry.....

If you Gays and liberal homo-sympathizers want to get married, then do it in a Church of Satan, not a House of God. Don't mock my Faith!!!

Obama should just institute a State-Church. We're already there anyway. Liberalism is a just a shadow version of Catholicism. It is state-mandated, by a bunch of Satanists, who believe that Man's law trumps God's law. But no way you cut it, liberals and their disgusting ilk, cannot convince the world that queerdom is "normal" and sexual deviancy ought to be tolerated.

If you want to tolerate gays, then you may as well tolerate incest and pedophilia! Why not?! It's just "sex for pleasure", nothing wrong with SIN is there?!?!?!?!?

You people make me sick. I hate liberals. You people are scum and ought to feel deeply, deeply ashamed with yourselves, passing off your SIN as something "good" or "noble". SICK!!!!!! You are the cause of degeneracy in our ONCE GREAT NATION. Liberals, atheists, and zionists are a great, metastized cancer in our brains and hearts. This cancer needs to get radiated into remission, QUICKLY, before it's too late.

The homos and liberals are already in the united states education system, in the public schools, teaching their SIN and spilling their lies into the YOUTH of our nation. I TIRE OF THE LIES!!!!!!!! Who is ready to die to save our ONCE GREAT country?! Who is ready to expose our enemies for what they are?! These peddlers of smut, sex, and SIN...... drug dealers, selling the most potent drug to our children!

 

Another Rightwinger who can't tell the difference between two consenting adults having sex and someone raping a child.

I hope you don't have kids.

 

Another Leftwinger Lib who can't tell the difference between sex for pleasure and sex for procreation. You make me SICK!

Typical Libs.....want to silence and censor anybody who doesn't agree with them, and wants to Eugenicize anybody who disagrees with them.

You Liberfascists are all the same!

 

are you suggesting that the only times you have sexual relations, you are attempting to procreate?

typical right wing bible thumping intolerant. If your church does not condone same sex marriage, no law on the books or proposed would force them to perform same sex marriages. I am a former pastor of a congregational church (UCC) in new england. Our denomination ordains gay and lesbian ministers and it joins same sex couples in holy matrimony in states where it is legal. Your church is perfectly able to keep its views on marriage. You should not attempt to tell MY denomination how to administer OUR sacraments.

 

Gay marriages biggest issue is the adoption of children. Can two men dressed in drag adopt little boys is one issue not the going to church and have a ceremony.
You don't need to get so emotional about it. Just simply argue that such things as anal sex and oral sex where they swallow semen should not be taught as being natural or normal.
You have a good argument why that should not be taught in sex ed for example. Try dropping the emotional basket case attitude even though they thoroughly gross you out.

 

My goal is to only have sex for procreation, yes. However, when I fail, when I am weak with my lust, then I recognize my SIN and must repent for this. I must become forgiven by God. This is weakness. Men who cannot resist temptation are weak. This is what it means to be mortal and fallible. Some men are much stronger than I, regarding sexual temptation. I am a Sinner....the difference is that I recognize I am WRONG.

"former pastor" for good reason, you're a Blasphemer against God and ought to be punished by tribune

Your Church bows to Satan and zionism. You are blasphemers and liars, unworthy of God's Good Grace.

God commands you. Your church is against God, and will receive punishment in due time. You have turned your back on the Word of God.

You are a blasphemer, short and simple. A liar.

 

I cannot ignore my emotions about this. My passion is ordained and justified. I do God's work for Him.

 

I could understand having passion but use it wisely. When you have a lost and confused child you don't yell at him with anger
but use logic and common sense.
Yet understand how confused these people are. They think the way of a spiritual life is sticking things up your anal cavity they are very lost and confused but expressed anger towards such stupidity just does not get your message across that it's not the way to a better life..

 

I have no intention of ever getting married in any church, so you can stop worrying over that.
There is religious marriage, and there is civil marriage.
I won't have my civil marriage in your religious house. You keep your religious house out of my civil marriage.
Then we can ALL be happy.

 

please provide me the scriptural reference that forbids husbands and wives from sexual relations other than those meant for procreation.

former because I am retired. In good standing.

your opinion is simply that. There are many devout members of UCC churches - and other denominations as well - that would disagree with you. Like I said... your denomination is free to be as exclusive as it wants to be in the administration of its sacraments. Don't tell my denomination how to administer ours.

God commands me to love the Lord my God with all my heart and all my soul and all my mind and to love my neighbor as myself. I know His love and feel it every day of my life. My church is filled with believers who hear that same command and feel that same love. Your judgmental view of me means absolutely nothing to me, and you should be careful as to your own judgmental behavior.

 

What exactly is wrong with consensual sex for pleasure? Every time you have sex are you trying to have a kid?

Liar. Pure and simple. You are a liar. And someone who might mistake their kid for a consenting adult since you can't the difference between the two.

 

So you want people who blaspheme to be punished but have the gaul to say that Liberals are the one's who want to silence people?

 

Libs are ignorant and childish, but there is a difference between a Lib Atheist Zionist speaking against God....and a self-proclaimed "Christian" speaking against God.

Can you imagine a Christian claiming that God supports Gays and queers??? That is hypocrisy greater and more evil than simple liberalism. That is somebody....who claims to represent God Almighty, is promoting Him falsely. God does not support SIN. This is a blasphemy. It is a LIE. And that is far worse than anything an ignorant, childish, naive Liberfascist can do or say. Liberals don't know any better, and can become forgiven for their Sinning. A "Christian" hypocrite is much, much worse.

A liar must be silenced, yes. God's Laws TRANSCEND mankind. How many times must I repeat this??? God's Law go beyond "Free Speech". We must NEVER tolerate liars, in matters of God and Spirit. The nature of SIN is too simple and easy to see, to ignore. It is too obvious. Even a young child recognizes the difference between sex for procreation, and sex for pleasure, DEVIANCY.

 

SIN. If you want to know more about what is wrong with Sin....then SEEK GOD. ASK HIM, not me. He is the authority here.

As a man who has crossed the path of God, yes. Everytime I Sin, I step away from God rather than closer to Him.

How dare you, filth?!?!

You're a hypocrite.

 

So in other words, you want a theocratic dictatorship where everyone is forced against their will to follow the laws of your religion?

 

Sex for pleasure inside of a marriage is not sinful. Even the Bible says that.

I'm not the one who can't tell the difference between two consenting adults having sex and a child being raped. You are. You are the filth and I hope you don't have kids.

 

NO! Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm not a Liberfascist like you are. That's the difference between you and I.

God's Law TRANSCENDS Man.....how many times must I repeat this? No amount of nation-states or histories will ever change the ABSOLUTE FACT, that sex for pleasure is SIN and punishable by God.

What am I enforcing on people here, except Truth?????

 

So you want God's Law above Man's law?

How is that not a theocracy?

BTW, I'm Left Libertarian. About as far from fascist as one can get.

 

Who died and made you godlet?

 

Church people need to push for legislation which defines the term "Marriage," since it has become a twisted and vague secular concept.

Christian Marriage was changed by the State as the idea of No Fault Divorce radically converted marriage as once understood into "going steady for a long time.".
The assumption that "Gay Marriage" has a definition needs to be challanged.

Gays do not stay married.
75% of all gay coupling is divorced within 7 years.

Marriage has always implied an agreement to have sexual relationships only with the marriage partner, while Gays intend by their consensual and mutual agrement to tolerate 6-10 sexual partners every year.

See what I mean?????

Marriage must be defined by the courts, not the question of who can be married.

 

Not really.

The real issue is definitions.

Gays want to have the government call "marriage" a contractual agreement between two people who:


1) ...agree to live together for a long time, and let everyone know that they will be having sex with one another.
2) Tolerate sex with 6-10 other people every year.
3) Separate (divorce themwselves) and leave one another in about 7 years.


This doesn't define what most people thought marriage meant.
Even Straight people will benefit from a list of several different terms for whatever couples intent to agree to.













High Rates Of Sexual Promiscuity within coupled Gay relationships:

Dr. Maria Xiridou published a study in a 2003 edition of AIDS, which reveals that homosexual couples in Amsterdam engage in what can be called consensual infidelity.

Dr. Xiridou was studying the spread of HIV among homosexuals in The Netherlands and found that HIV was spread more rapidly among homosexual couples who considered themselves to be in “steady” relationships.
These couples failed to engage in “safe sex” and were involved in 6-10 additional sexual encounters outside of the primary relationship each year.

www.traditionalvalues.org/pdf_files/statistics_on_homosexual_lifestyle.pdf

 

Why should the Christian definition of marriage be forced on all of the non-Christians in America?

What gives Christians the right to restrict the freedoms of others?

 

It ought not be forced on any couple.

What the court must do is stop calling any relationship "marriage," untilt the various and several different types of contractual agreements between couples, (maybe even groups), is specified just like any other legal contract.



I suggest a few here:

1) Going Steady

Couple can unilaterally discontinue the relationship

2) Gay Marriage:

No Fault divorce with financial settlements agreed to bu pre-neptuals
Adultery is intended and accepted behaviors during the duration of the arrangement.

3) Traditiiobql Life time No Divorce Marriage ( except for adultery)

Adultery is punished with property division to the benefit of the injured party.

4) Straight No Fault Divorce Marriage

50/50 property divisions or pre-marital agreements at anytime.

 

Cupid Dave why are you comparing non married homosexual couples to married hetero couples?

Do you have a study comparing married hetero, and homo sexual couples? Or one on non married hetero, and homo sexual couples?

Some fast stats on traditional marriage.

http://www.usattorneylegalservices.com/divorce-statistics.html

 

Or the government can just call all marriages "civil unions" and have property division in a divorce decided on a case by case basis.