If "headscarfed" YouTube HQ shooter is a Muslim, do we blame Islam, or guns?

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If YouTube headscarfed shooter is a Muslim, do we blame Islam or guns?

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  2. Islamic doctrine which teaches warfare against blasphemers (YouTube qualifies), and Jihad.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Question: If "headscarfed" YouTube HQ shooter is a Muslim, do we blame Islam, or guns?

    Me, I'd say both, but I'd need to know which verses of the Qur'an she was following.

    Your opinion? Would we eliminate the Qur'an, or eliminate the 2nd Amendment?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its never the Muslims fault, we need to empathize with them.

    If they shoot or blow people up its only because we made them do it.

    In fact, they are the only ones who should own guns because they have to protect themselves from the evil white americans.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    every single time one of these happens some random dipshit on 4chan suggests that islam is related and it starts getting relayed in the rumor mill as if it were gospel

    in a few hours we'll probably know more. if the shooter is actually a woman, that's an unusual change from the norm, and i wonder if that makes her more or less likely to kill herself before she can be arrested
     
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    After all it's a "religion of peace".....it must be, Obama said it!!!!!
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama did say he would stand with Islam, he never said that about Christians.
     
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    what if it's a Christian?
     
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    One REASON that many people suspect it's always a Muslim is because of the 100+ Jihad-enabling verses in the Qur'an - which is from their "all-knowing" god, not just a gentle suggestion, etc.: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html
     
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    Doesn't matter who gets blamed so long as everyone blames someone else so that we all get to avoid any/all responsibility for this society and it can continue on just as it is.
     
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    No need to suspect anyone other than all-americans in mass school shootings.
     
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    This is exactly what "thoughts and prayers" are meant to do, as well. Turn the problem over to a non-existent invisible man in the sky - let's them feel good, but never solves the problem.
     
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    Religion has a sad track-record, a very long track-record, however:

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    But because of Qur'an 8:39 (which is from GOD, no less, they feel!), killing us is encouraged in Islam: "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]....." - Q8:39 (Mohsin Khan)
     
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    yeah, the abrahamic faiths have some vile **** in their holy texts. fortunately, most people interpret their holy texts creatively so they can avoid having to believe horrible things.
     
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    In other words they don't assume that the books mean what they say and say what they mean, they assume that their "god" can't be direct, he has to talk in circles and not really say what he means. Not very "god-like", for sure.
     
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    And followers tend to lack the basic morality to improve said vile texts. Intellectual cowards.
     
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    Yeah, that's all religions. Religion is how people convince themselves what they already believe comes from God.
     
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