If liberals are ok with people having guns, why then is it nearly impossible...

Why don’t you give us the number ....you’re making the accusation.

 

So official misconduct and corruption is acceptable, so long as it is not perceived as being widespread enough to warrant concern? The permitting system, established in the name of preventing the acquisition of firearms who should not have them, has been exploited to allow what it was supposed to prevent, and that is not deemed a problem in need of address, either one way or the other?

 

Why would you believe such? Seems awfully silly of you to hold that belief.

 

Thus ignoring the racist history of the sullivan act when it was initially implemented, specifically to keep minorities and legal immigrants disarmed by law.

The same training that is blamed whenever a law enforcement officer kills a minority individual?

 

If the firearms permitting system is simply going to be used as a way to extract favors and funding from the well-connected members of the public who can afford such, then it serves no justified, legitimate reason for existing.

 

I think we proved that isn't how the firearms permit system is used. But nice try.

 

And yet it is exactly how it was used, and was proven to be used, because the system is easily exploited by greedy individuals. Thus making the entire process and system flawed. Thus meaning it is without justification for existing.

 

Total hyperbole on your part. Congrats

 

You were never a cop, so well excuse you from your uninformed statements.

 

That’s a pretty presumptuous claim. Of course, you have proof. Nah, that would be presumptuous of me to expect that.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act

Controversy
The first person convicted under the law was an Italian immigrant named Marino Rossi who was travelling to a job interview and carrying a revolver for fear of the Black Hand.[12] At sentencing the judge declared: "It is unfortunate that this is the custom with you and your kind, and that fact, combined with your irascible nature, furnishes much of the criminal business in this country."[13] Prior to Marino's arrest, others had been arrested under the new law but were released without charges.[14] Whether this was part of the law's intent, it was passed on a wave of anti-immigrant and anti-Italian rhetoric as a measure to disarm an alleged criminal element.[15] The police department who granted the licenses could easily discriminate against "undesirable" elements.[15] Days before the law took effect The New York Times published an article saying "Low-browed foreigners bargained for weapons of every description and gloated over their good fortune in hearing of the drop in the gun market before it was too late".[16] After Rossi's conviction The New York Times called this "warning to the Italian community" both "timely and exemplary".[17]

According to New York City historian George Lankevich, the Act was passed so that Sullivan could have friends in the police force plant handguns on his rivals and take them to jail.[18]

 

One does not need to be a law enforcement officer to recognize the training they are provided with is wholly inadequate, remedial at best, and designed to be the cheapest in terms of cost for cities to provide.

 

You’re such an authority on what you know nothing about. Fact...
“In 2018 there have been approximately 750 people killed by police in the U.S. This might sound like a lot but when you consider the population of the U.S. in 2016....there are approximately 3,000,000 police officers it is actually minuscule.” The population is 350,000,000

In addition, 74% of those shootings, the suspect fired or brandished a weapon at the police or an innocent civilian. That leaves less then 200 possible suspect.


contrary, only 2% of civilian shootings are justifiable...
98% unjustifiable
it’s obvious, the police are well trained.
You’ve wasted too much of my time with your falsehoods....moving on.

 

When do purely racist laws cease being racist?

One hundred and nine years.

One who cannot even do basic math has no business trying to dictate what others do and do not need.

 

Moving on.

 

Meaning there is no desire on the part of yourself to try and explain how the sullivan act is not a racist piece of legislation, that was implemented for purely racist purposes, and still remains on the books despite the history of racism attached to it.

 

Zzzzzz

 

What was your throwdown of choice?

 

Why mention felons? They cannot legally own guns. The question is must a State issue a CCW to a person who meets the requirements (whatever they are per State requirements) v. issue one or not issue one based on a whim. The DEM states almost never issue a CCW to a person without connections.

 

I am a liberal and I prefer people to carry concealed, it's the polite way to do things, why do republicans want people to have to ask the government for permission to do the polite thing? everyone should have the right to conceal without asking the government for permission

the biggest danger of open carry is a good guy with a gun mistaking you for a bad guy with a gun - recently a child was killed for open carrying a toy gun

why does the RNC make their events no gun zones?

 

Move or sue.....that’s your right.

 

States do not have rights.

 

Wow....

 

I see you read in phrases without regard to sentence structure. It’s therefore impossible to even have a discussion. Moving on.