IF man-caused global climate change, here's a possible explanation, and it isn't what liberals want

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  1. Shook

    Shook Active Member

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    Might be calculated (intentional) strategic war against you. Certainly leftist liberals are not spared, but they're definitely barking up the wrong tree if the following is the case.

    Revisting HAARP.
    US military's High Frequency Advanced Auroral Research Project (HAARP) and its Russian counterpart SURA (Ionospheric Heating Facility), which is several times more powerful than HAARP, and similar facilities in Japan, Europe, (and no doubt elsewhere in Asia). The High Power Auroral Stimulation (HIPAS) has advanced/replaced (I guess) HAARP in Alaska.
    https://www.wanttoknow.info/war/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons

    The following clips are dated. They have great information, but one question they don't address because they can't -- they are too early -- is what can a global array of HAARP-type facilities do as a coordinated unit (a NWO tool)?


    HAARP construction dates to 1992. It was decommissioned in .


    A couple Gen X'ers born after HAARP was built and have grown up with it, take the tour. Pay attention.


    Vice story on HAARP with Nick Begitch Jr interview.


    HAARP, the weather, mind control and a question: "Why blow people up when you can drive them crazy?"
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    What "liberals" want is respect for science.
     
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    Like acknowledging more than two genders?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not science, it is society.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone knows those are Alien Communication devices, developed shortly after Jimmy Carter opened up the convex wormwhole to Tantaris Prime to eneble our invisible overlords to instigate the Trumpasium protocol.
     
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    LOL... well when liberals actually "respect science" themselves, you let us know, and in the mean time, don't forget that government driven "science" is what got the old USSR in so many issues and caused so much death and destruction
     
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    No. Liberals tend to deny science.
     
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    No, it is science. He was correct.

    XX. XY. Pretty straight forward if you ask me...
     
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    "Straight forward", but a HIGHLY incomplete understanding of the science.

    It is the SRY gene that kicks off male feature development, and that is USUALLY on the Y chromosome.

    But, there is the possibility of the relocation of the SRY gene to the X chromosome, kicking off male feature development even though there is no Y chromosome. There are other issues with the SRY gene, and there are the cases of XO, XXY, XYY and even cases of having more than two X chromosomes with no Y chromsome - like XXXX. Also, a Y chromosome could have no SRY gene or a compromised SRY gene.

    AND, the SRY STARTS male development, other factors affect that development pathway - most commonly but not always helping.

    I suspect the problem here comes from people hearing about the common cases without actually knowing jack about the science.

    That is understandable. High school biology has VERY little time and an enormous field to cover in some way.

    So, we have to have a respect for science.
     
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    That doesnt change basic biology. XX yields a female. XY yields a male. That is a fact.

    Sometimes something goes askew and you get a person with both sexual organs to various degrees

    People born male who think they are female have mental issues. Indulging them instead of research to cure them is cruel . We should strive for mental health. Gender dysphoria and the messiah complex are both mental issues . We still try to fix one of them while the other is indulged and even celebrated. There is quite a bit of incoherence coming from the left that promote science unless it interferes with social ideological beliefs
     
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    I clearly pointed out that may be the most common case, but it is NOT a biological fact. Male gender development comes from the SRY gene, which is USUALLY on the Y chromosome. But, it may be damaged, missing or even end up being on an X chromosome.

    There are other exceptions that do occur - as per my previous post.

    There are many outcomes. Hermaphroditism is rare and only one possible outcome.
    As pointed out, there are also genetic issues - it can not be written off as "mental".

    These genetic issues existed at bith and guided development from birth onward. Suggesting that can be "cured" is absolutely ridiculous.

    The idea that this family of genetic issues is comparable to Messiah complex is preposterous.

    Beyond that, counseling is at the discretion of the individual. Attempting to force some change that someone else demands is assault.
     
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    Yup, you got it!
     
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    No. gender is a word that has broader meaning. You are talking about sex.

    I know this gets very complicated for you but you might try looking up the definition next time.
     
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    This isn't science and doesn't belong here. It goes in the crackpot conspiracy section.
     
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    Mankind created those definitions.

    However, nature doesn't actually give a crap about our dictionary.

    And, it's an easy lab procedure to find that those are not the only options nature has given us.
     
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    Only as long as it backs their beliefs. But that applies to any person who sees reality through their beliefs as their ideology becomes a filter .

    People who are scientists are no more objective than a plumber. This was said by a scientist but an honest one .He said scientists are human beings . Afflicted with what is common in our species.
     
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    That every person that is transgender is due to genetics is preposterous.

    If there is a causation attributed to genetics in some transgender people evidenced by peer reviewed research it isnt there in all cases of being transgender. You got a legit link to genetic studies that backs you up? I am intetested seriously in this subject .

    Are you saying genetics can be the cause of mental dysfunction? . That the messiah complex could be genetically based?

    It is a biological fact that xy is male and has a penis and xx will be female with a vagina . Any exception is an anomaly .

    Unless something goes wrong in development. Like having a two headed calf . Yet most calfs are born with one head and so often that biologists have no problem stating that a calf has one head and that is a fact.
     
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    Please cite. Claiming quotes without even knowing who said them or in what context is ridiculous.

    The part you ignore here is that no individual scientist has free reign in validating their results.

    That is, science is specifically designed to prevent this problem as well a the problem that individuals may simply overlook some factor of which they aren't aware.

    So, science requires duplication by unassociated scientists and serious technical review by independently chosen peers - that is, others who are experts in related fields.

    Once in a while something gets through. But, science is designed to catch that and correct it as soon as possible. And, the more relevant the result to important questions, the more verification occurs.

    By the way, the same happens in religion. The difference is that in religion there is no standard by which such deviations can be addressed to elmiinate the mistakes made by humans.
     
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    You can call it an anomaly on the grounds that it isn't the high probability outcome.

    Our LBGTQ population isn't really that large of a percent of our population. So, claiming it is too common to have actual causes is an empty argument.

    At the first of your post you make absolute statments for which you give ZERO evidence.

    Also, it just isn't true that XY will always result in what we know as the common male boy parts along with the associated expected changes in other internal organs. As I pointed out earlier, gender is kicked off by the SRY gene, which is supposed to be on the Y chromosome. If it isn't there or if it is damaged or if the very early devlopment progress is inhibited for some reason, the outcome is going to be different.

    If you do really want to learn more, I'd suggest this simple starting point that gives info that would allow diving into the science more deeply if you want to.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome
     
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    Best laugh all day!

    What next? The green fairy monster with her global warming wand?
     
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    You’re supposition is false. Man did not cause climate change. Man has accelerated the rate of climate change. Let’s get the facts straight.
     
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    Why is this not in the Conspiracy Theory section where it belongs?
     
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    It's a branch of science called "biology".
     
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    Nope! Tecoyah is right it is sociology

    And there are NOT “two genders” because you CAN have xyy and even XXy and a whole range of chromosomal abnormalities

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    That is just a few
     
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