If no Brexit Deal, Brits will face wide ranging travel chaos to the EU

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  1. 61falcon

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    It also means the Chunnel will get far less use as a passport will be required to ride to France and you will have to go through customs coming and going just as it was pre E.U.Total and complete pain in the butt.
     
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    There was no channel tunnel pre-EU.
    It was opened in 1994.



    But yes, I think passport controls are likely.
    Maybe they can check you on the train during the journey? They used to do that on the ferries.
     
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    The UK should just revoke their signature on the EU Treaty and leave, telling them to get buggered, and let them decide what to do and well try to get other major nations to opt out the same way.
     
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    I don't think it can happen. I think parliament won't vote for that.
    I don't think parliament can agree on anything and that for me is the best of all solutions.

    We just leave without agreement on anything.

    I also think if they call another referendum, another politician will get assasinated.
    I still think it's a hot issue.
     
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    Interesting, my tourist visa was much more faff to get hold of in the 1980s

    Insurance passporting is absolutely covered by the EU currently and is one of many things that people in the City are worried about. You're right the the Chequers agreement omits any kind of provision for services (Nearly 80% thereabouts of the UK economy and something we have a large surplus with the EU. That's one of many reasons why the Chequers agreement is, IMO, only marginally better than a "no-deal".

    Insurance within the UK may not cost more, but insurance for travel to the EU will likely cost more.

    Other prices in the UK will be dependent on how the pound fares against the currencies of the countries from which we import things. If the pound falls then prices will rise (even on UK manufactured goods if there is a significant foreign component in the supply chain). If the pound rises then imported goods become cheaper (good news for the consumer) but this means they can further undercut home producers and exports become more expensive (bad news for home producers).

    In the US they have two queues at airports.
    US citizens and foreigners.

    That's not my experience at all in the US. It's more like a 50/50 split in my experience. The lines are much longer for non-US citizens because the process for us is much more time consuming.

    I guess it's because I tend to use regional airports that I don't get the kinds of problems you report.
     
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    No mate insurance is absolutely not covered by the EU agreement.
    It's one of the things the UK has always been trying to get into it.

    Insurance companies, like banks, benefit from economies of scale. The more customers you have the more money you can make, the cheaper you can provide insurance, the more customers you can attract.
    So small banks and insurance companies cannot compete with large ones.

    London is the worlds largest financial centre. The big whale.
    If the EU opened it's insurance industries up to free trade, they would disappear within one year. London can offer cheaper prices and next renewal you would choose them.

    They know it and so they protected their insurance industries from us.

    The UK financial industries are a much larger share of GDP than EU exports.
    The city is more important to our economy than the EU. The goal has always been to get a free trade deal in services out of the EU.
    But they won't. They have domestic industries to protect.
    We gave them free trade in goods. We gave them fixed prices on food.
    We appeased both the economies of Germany and France in return for an open market on financial services and they never delivered. They welched on the deal.
    Cameron tried again pre-referendum, came home with "Tampon Tax".
    The EU has been **** for us economically. A disaster. It's not just Theresa May that has failed us in negotiations.


    Fall in value of the Pound is the only significant economic worry in Brexit.
    It should be a double edged sword, good for some bad for others.
    Good for domestic producers, services, exporters and tourism, bad for importers and those who enjoy foreign services and holidays.

    When the Pound dropped after Brexit vote.
    Exports did not very significantly increase. Supply chains.
    Our high tech goods are import dependent. Their international price didn't much drop.

    The potential rise in costs of importation due to a Brexit induced currency drop, can be mitigated by the reduction in tariffs and trade protections.
     
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