If there is a God, does he want us to get the vaccine?

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If there is a God, does he want us to get the vaccine?

  1. I think so

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  2. I do NOT think so

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  3. I don't know

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A good Summation - hitting some key points - introduction of the idea of "Accountability" Which takes us back to "works vs Faith" clearly you are speaking of a works component to salvation .. as previously agreed - but to this you add "Faith" components - these "Faith Components" accompanyed by initiation rituals .. baptism - Sacrament.

    This is pretty mainstream doctrine thus far - Orthodox - Catholic .. exactly the same as described -- Not so much for Protestantism that adheres to "Sola Fide" tightly - the Fundamentalists in particular.

    To the works requirement you introduce "forgiveness" -- rescue from our sins .. a good one - but then attached some stuff "Justification of shame" I didn't get but, .. listing a few things to avoid ..pride- self righteousness -- proverbs of a sort all good.

    You then spend some time on the need for sacrifice .. more proverbs .. OK .. The Nunnery is a noble goal .. got it :) .. but then we go from standard doctrine .. sliding down a bit of a slippery slope into dogma - who gets to decide what "Sacrifice" entails .. now wandering down the path of words in God's mouth - usurping position of Logos.

    Have to watch about the "Who is claiming Sacrifice is What - how much "sacrifice" is required ..and to what end" - as it is there you will find the demon hiding in the closet.
     
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    Mormons baptize even the dead, and that always made me wonder, because their belief is almost in line with universal salvation where every one is saved, even though there are different degrees of salvation.
     
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    I guess that over the thousands of years, many have perished without ever having heard the gospel or been offered a chance at baptism/salvation, etc. So Temples are built and ordinances performed to that end. Mormons believe that the Church and gospel are established and is being preached in the spirit world, just like here in mortality. But because they have no bodies, baptisms are performed here in mortality for them. And the spirits have the opportunity to either accept or reject the baptism and continue on in working out their salvation in the spirit world. Marriages or sealings, and familial sealings for entire families for those in the spirit world are also being performed here in Temples. These as well are matters of choice in the spirit world. It might all sound crazy and unfathomable. But that's what Mormons believe and do. Before my testimony, I found it all weird. But now I see it as wholesome, orderly, and as a loving Gods involvement in everyone's life. Such that he does not forget us or leave us alone or not tend to us and provide for us, no matter where or who we are. It also allows our participation in the salvation of the dead and to extend/express our tender love and mercy for them, that no part of the tree of life goes untended or unnurtured.
     
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    I checked with him. His position is that those with natural immunity should not be vaccinated. Seniors and those with complicating factors should be vaccinated. It is optional for everyone else. That was easy.
     
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    Which way did he/she/ it tell you that?
    By way of an angel?
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I prayed really really hard. ;)
     
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    I see :)
     
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    As a Catholic I trust you believe that one of God's gifts to Mankind is free will.

    Thus, God wants us to decide for ourselves.
     
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