If Trump is a conman or a dictator...

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a thread to discuss things Trump said he would do that he hasn't tried to do and/or that arent aeing actively obstructed by opposition.

    The claim that 'Trump didn't do what he said' it seems is most often made regarding issues that his opposition have successfully blocked, delayed, defunded or otherwise stymied. Which of course means it isn't Trump's fault that he hasn't accomplished them yet.

    Some of these things he could likely get done by executive authority. However, that would make him the authoritarian that many claim that he is.

    So lets discuss. What did he say he would get done that hasn't been obstructed from being done and that the opposition isn't guaranteed to obstruct?
     
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    So..........if he promises to do something stupid (or illegal), and people object to the stupidity, preventing the stupidity from being acted on, he gets a pass?

    Trump calls Tillerson ‘dumb as a rock’ after former secretary of State said the president encouraged him to break the law
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/07/rex-tillerson-says-he-pushed-back-on-illegal-trump-demands.html
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BTW, you left out cult leader.

    The Cult of Trump is an accessible and in-depth analysis of the president, showing that under the right circumstances, even sane, rational, well-adjusted people can be persuaded to believe the most outrageous ideas. Hassan’s book is essential reading for anyone wanting to understand the Trump phenomenon and looking for a way forward.
    https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Cult-of-Trump/Steven-Hassan/9781982127336
     
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    Oh you PRESIDENT Trump haters.

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  5. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a thread to discuss things Trump said he would do that he hasn't tried to do and/or that arent being actively obstructed by opposition.

    If you want to talk about the legality of the things Trump said he would do or the justifications for the obstruction, start your own thread on it.

    Do you have any examples of things Trump said he would do that he hasn't tried to do and/or that arent being actively obstructed by opposition, to demonstrate the common claim that he is a conman suggesting he got elected under false pretences?
     
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    The GAO found that Obama broke the law 7 times and Obama and his people didn't give a crap...
    https://bongino.com/flashback-seven-times-the-gao-said-the-obama-administration-broke-federal-law/
     
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    The anger is on your side, remember? Angry conservatives verses happy liberals. Isn't that what gathered y'all around Trump. Like him, y'all were mad because liberals were always making fun of y'all. Are you not angry now? It is not so much that the left hates Trump as much as they are disgusted by him. I don't have to hate feces to find it disgusting.
     
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    Trump said he's putting Americans first, which is a dealbreaker for Democrats.
     
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    Obama was a serial liar and on matters of great importance and you never complained. Obama was the most corrupt president in the history of the United States, and you supported him.
     
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    Lol. We have 5 more years of Trump. We're giddy. It sounds like you need a teenage girl's shoulder to cry on. Lol again!
     
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    Let's get one thing out of the way. Young men aspire to be dictators. Like Castro. Like Hitler.
     
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    Look more closely. Hassan's indictment is as much about Trumpette's as it is about Trump.
     
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    All you have to do is look how Trump has helped our country so far. And if you still are against the man then you are blinded by the lying democrats, the fake news media, or your own hatred that you may not be able to understand.
     
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    He puts his own wealth and power first. Which is why he sides with our enemies,north korea dnd Russia. Because they have him money. He's brorrows hundreds of millions from Putin do he can keep pretending he's a billionaire
     
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    I learn so much from some forum posters.
     
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    Release his taxes after the audit was completed
    Sue those that accused him of sexual misconduct
    Present a balanced budget
    Push for term limits
    allow individuals to deduct care insurance premiums as part of his tax reform
    Get Mexico to pay for the wall
     
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    I haven't kept close track of this- but I think it's safe to say that everything Trump has tried to do has been and will be obstructed. That goal has taken priority in the democratic leadership, over the obligations to the American people, to the duty to preserve integrity in their institution- to everything.

    There is no legitimate objection in most cases, because it's not about legislation nor legitimate principles. It is distinctly personal and the obstruction is designed to destroy Trump, and thereby preserve the covert benefits and powers that congress has- things not in the public view, things that would bring outrage if they were.... things that makes being a member of congress such a lucrative position. That is not protecting the public from Trump- it's protecting their private gold mine from exposure and loss. That is why it is so intense; they feel that their unwritten personal privileges are at risk. If this was only about the people- the level of hostility would be perhaps 20% of what we are seeing from democrats today.
     
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    Debt and “draining the swamp”.

    Republicans held both chambers of congress for two years and the debt was never really addressed and he is recently on record as saying who really cares about the debt anyway.

    His administration has been a revolving door of pay to play positions, lobbyists, and outright criminals.

    I would also throw in “bring back world respect for America” but the conservative definition seems to have changed from the metric they held Obama to so I will eliminate it before it even begins.

    Also — tax returns and general transparency
     
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    Trump said he would reduce the debt, but has made no attempt to reduce the debt.
    Trump said he would only hire the best people, then he hired people like Omorosa and The Mooch and has the highest turnover in White House history - a number have left because of ethics violations.
    Trump said he would be too busy to. Golf - yet has set records for the expenses of his golf trips.
    Trump said he had a better plan for health care, but he never submitted such a plan to Congress.
    That’s the short list.
     
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    If Trump is a dictator, why hasn't he put Pelosi and Schiff up against a wall?
     
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    After the Pompeo incident with a reporter from NPR he now wants to defund NPR yet Reagan already did that. Someone please inform his royal hiney that NPR only received 2% of its funding from the govt.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    That's too much. There's no royalties due on the blues music they play on Sunday evening.
     
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    If NPR is still getting 2% Federal funding, then Reagan didn't defund NPR.
     
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    Was Jim Jones a con man or a dictator? Your answer also applies to trump.
     

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