If Voter IDs are Racist, Everything Requiring IDs should be Considered Racist

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By JD Rucker
    August 31, 2016


    Leave it to politicians to politicize common sense. That’s what happening on both sides of the aisle when it comes to voter identification, though Democrats are pressing the bounds of politicization much further. The latest example is the Supreme Court’s unwillingness[http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/north-carolina-voter-id-supreme-court-227604] to address a North Carolina voter ID law struck down by a lower court.

    The Democrats say such laws are racist. They know that minorities are less likely to have valid forms of identification, so they make them the victims of laws that require identification in order to vote. They stop with voting, though. They don’t point out that the same should apply to buying age-restricted items like tobacco or alcohol. There are other situations that require identification, but we’ll focus on that one.

    By law, one has to present a valid form of identification in order to purchase restricted items. If progressive sensitivities (aka their liberal agenda) say that voting is a right that should not be taken from someone just because they don’t have proper identification, shouldn’t the same be said about buying beer? Cigarettes? If someone is a U.S. citizen who has chosen to not get valid identification, why should their right to purchase items be removed based upon racial discrimination? They should just be able to go in and say that they’re of a valid age just as a voter can in North Carolina today.

    If that doesn’t make any sense to you, it’s because you can’t warp your brain to the way that a liberal is required to think.

    One might wonder how the Republicans are politicizing it. The reality is that they have a solution. All they have to do is set a law declaring acceptable forms of identification for all age-restricted activities. Buying alcohol or tobacco would be included. Entering premises that cater to adult patrons such as bars, casinos, or strip clubs would be included. Some things, such as buying a firearm, require two forms of valid identification. And yes, voting should be included on the list because it’s age-restricted as well.

    The challenge in doing this is two-fold. First, it would mean consolidating individual laws listing requirements for specific age-restricted activities into one which would be a much larger task than most realize. The second reason is catering to special interest groups. Oversight in many industries such as alcohol and tobacco is already established and appreciated. Changes, even for the sake of preventing voter fraud, are frowned upon by these groups. With the solution staring them in the face, they refuse to act upon it.

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    Read more:
    http://soshable.com/if-voter-ids-are-racist-everything-requiring-ids-should-be-considered-racist/

    Who’s are the stupid fools who say Voter ID laws are Racists? The argument against voter ID is that, according to Progressive Socialist liberals, some are simply too incompetent to acquire a photo ID (though, if they are among the allegedly targeted groups, they already have photo ID to receive government benefits) or the little old lady that lives in a area so isolated, so remote, so without any means of communication or transportation that they cannot possibly acquire a photo ID… yet they have voted in every election since the day they were born and/or passed away. The entire argument against is based on lies and there has to be a valid, diabolical reason behind it.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone already knows this...
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently, Liberal judges and SCOTUS are unaware if this, or things would be differently adjudicated.
     
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    In the end, Rucker's diatribe points out why his postulation is ridiculous.

    As for your addition, it's just obviously false.

    Plus no, voting isn't a diabolical plot. It is a right.
     
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    Voter ID is not racist. Even India has voter ID laws.
     
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    Voter IDs themselves aren't racist. Intentionally allowing only Voter IDs that certain ethnic groups tend to use more is racist.
     
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    Yes, it's a right given to us that should not be abused by politicians, tyrants, groups or parties. The plot that is diabolical is the joke the "Democratic" party has made of voting in America. You know Poll Tax, Jim Crow Laws, and dead people voting. Are you claiming Poll Taxing and Jim Crow was not invented by Democrats and administered by Democrats?
     
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    Everyone who is a citizen and of voting age can get a valid ID. Nobody is barred from that.
     
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    Now some dem is going to respond and say how some minorities are, in their opinion, too stupid to go to the dmw office and get an id, or they can't find time or a ride, not once in their entire lives.
     
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    Take note that in 16 years, the dems haven't been able to come up with 1) any argument that prevents people from getting an ID to vote and 2) Or showing a person who hasn't been able to acquire an ID or not able to vote, who has followed the procedure to acquire an ID
     
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    but of course. they can get around to go get their food, nikes, hair do's, and other amenities but they can't get around to or afford getting a $20 ID.
     
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    Or a free ID that if they cant' afford it.
     
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    Yes, the Democratic party made some mistakes over the time of its existence, but for the mistake you mention, the realignment of the parties came as Democrats chased the bigots to the Republican party - and good riddance!

    Let's remember that there have been major party changes over time. Lincoln was a Whig before he switched parties. There was the Native American party (also known as the "Know Nothings" as they arose from secret societies of nationalists with names like "The Order of the Star Spangled Banner") who Lincoln didn't want to upset, because he needed their support against slavery. Their hatred for immigrants came in part from hating Catholicism, with the immigrants of the time coming from places like Ireland which were Catholic, obviously.

    By now, those opposed to immigrants and minorities have mostly moved to the Republican party, or have decided that isn't a significant issue.

    Anyone who points to some attitude by one party in some distant nook of history merely exposes their ignorance of the amount of change that has gone on.

    And, we haven't seen the last of it as is attested by the major rift in the Republican party today.
     
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    And that's not including the states that give the I.D. for free.
     
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    What realignment? All the racists are still in the Democratic Party, still busy holding down their black members. Black republicans I know are pretty successful.
     
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    One must consider that hourly wage earners must pay with their lost hours (or shifts, for those whose work is counted in shirts).

    Plus, you will remember that some states have been closing DMV sites where ID is obtained - selectively, in areas where the elected officials are interested in low turnout. So, there are additional barriers in terms of finding and traveling to sites that might serve them.

    These all make a statistical difference, handicapping those whom elected officials hate.

    I'd point out that in my state, NO id is shown when I vote, as everybody in the state votes by mail.

    As with the checks I write, my signature is my ID and when I vote that is compared against my voter registration signature.
     
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    If you cant' afford an ID they will give you one for free.
     
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    "There are none so blind as those who will not see." Haywood, 1500's

    Or, as in Jeremiah, "Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not".
     
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    Well if they have a job, that means that have an I.D. to prove they are who they say they are. They would probably also have a bank account to deposit/cash their payroll checks which also requires an I.D., etc. Try again.
     
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    Hmm..., There are just so many ways you can polish that turd, none of it is going to be sanitary or pleasant. Aah, yes ACORN and voter fraud and the DNC rigging the Presidential primary.

    Guccifer 2.0 Leak Reveals How DNC Rigged Primaries...
    http://observer.com/2016/06/guccifer-2-0-leak-reveals-how-dnc-rigged-primaries-for-clinton/
    ... on the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Donald Trump. The DNC confirmed the hack and ... manipulation of the primary ... 2016 elections , Bernie ...
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~​


    The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/
     
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    The only jobs that wouldn't require an ID, illegal jobs. AKA underwage under the table pay. So a lot of illegal immigrants would fall into that category.
     
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    IDs themselves aren't racist. Intentionally allowing only IDs that certain ethnic groups tend to use more is racist.

    There. Fix it for ya!
     
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    Start taking the cost of compliance with court orders out of the Courts' budgets.
     

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