If women were so great..

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  1. Yant0s

    Yant0s Active Member

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    Why for most of history they were women second class compared to men?

    God didnt just give the man a free pass. We were all put on this earth equal, but the why did man climb to the top?

    Its only recently man has given power to women because they decided too. If women were so great how come they allowed themselves to become so oppressed for most of history?

    Like all over the world in every separate developing group its the men that sat at the top. Why were women not capable?
     
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  2. Renee

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    What a wonderful example of victim blaming. Think of the term “might makes right”
     
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    What a wonderful example of dodging the question. Think of reasons of why women were less capable and why they wernt as good as their male counterparts. Take responsibility and stop acting like a victim.
     
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    The OP is cracked in logic.

    The economic value of women, since the beginning of the Modern Technology Age, has increased to equal or even exceed that of men.

    When economic value was produced by animal and muscle sweat, and the ability of men to use physical violence in the home without public interference, women were relegated to second place.

    Should a modern apocalypse return us to a decentralized society dependent on coal oil and steam power, women will once again be placed in a subordinate position.
     
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    They weren’t less capable but they were physically weaker and didn’t have money.. do you think women suddenly got more intelligent?. But now women are taking responsibility and men are now seeing themselves as victims because women are gaining more and more power every day
     
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    Renee understands the dynamic.
     
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    Lol. Sounds like you have the concept of 'man' mixed up/confused for 'God'.

    Sorry to break it to you but as a mere mortal you don't have the omnipotence to decide who gets the power.

    Unless you're a bully, I guess. In which case, you wouldn't be omnipotent, you'd just be a horrendous ********.
     
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    :roflol:

    Classic example of an Appeal to Tradition Logical FALLACY!

    Any educated historian can provide examples where women have outperformed men when the opportunity came their way.

    The fact that men OPPRESSED women for most of recorded history is nothing for men to be proud of because it demonstrates a lack of critical thinking skills being substituted by mindless brawn instead.

    What is interesting is that NOW that women are achieving equality it is men who are whining about being oppressed when that is NOT actually happening.

    Women are mentally stronger than men and always have been.
     
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    The record a few cultures where they weren't subjugated. But the reason why I think men governed, men went to war and men built things, is because women had babies. With high infant mortality rates about two centres ago, they probably spend most of their youth either pregnant, nursing babies, or caring for children. It was important for the species.

    I wouldn't belittle that work, in fact I think it's one of the most important things humans do.
     
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    Look at the number of men killed in war compared to the number of women ... then get back to me on which gender had the better life.
     
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    YantOs, please THINK.

    Women earned their way to equality, in great part by mastering the modern era of economics and profit producing that is not dependent on sweat and muscle.

    In an era where economic value is measured in man and animal sweat and muscle power, women will lack in civil liberties.
     
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    Men create, build, invent e.t.c. women do do this but not many.

    Lets face if there were no men about civilization would still be in the dark ages.

    You all know this deep down but will deny it. Women just play a support role and you're basically confirming this in your argument.

    In a nutshell man had to graft and build a modern civilisation. Once its complete, flourishing and easy to get by, thats when women start taking on more responsibility.
     
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    Civilization today and making your way in it is not "flourishing and easy to get by." Only a far right dopi-oid would think so, imo.

    The issue is one of labor. If it is a matter of human and animal muscle and sweat, the men will rule. If it is a matter of using brains and abilities in a modern technological society, the women will rule.
     
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    You believe women have special abilities?

    By the way you make zero sence and dance around the subject like somone afraid to admit the truth.

    Give me a few example of womens contributions to building a modern society throught history.

    Easterly awaits a pathetically small list of laughable contributions. Well apaet from givibg birth to Men ;).
     
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    So you can't handle an argument.

    I made it clear: if it is muscle and sweat labor, men will rule.

    If it is modern technology and services, women will rule.

    Tough.
     
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    When you show me the number of men dying in childbirth LOL. I think you should really protest that men have to sign up for the draft ....After all men made that decision and if it bothers you be a man and fight it. Don’t ask women to fight your battles
     
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    Women weren’t allowed to be educated throughout history…duh! Now women are making all kinds of contributions and I bet you think they just suddenly got smart. Imagine if women were allowed to be educated where we would be now. Why are you so petrified of women?
     
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    I was just pointing out that women are smarter than men - sending them off to battle.
     
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    LOL it’s not that women are smarter than men because we didn’t make that decision. But it might show that men aren’t very smart that they put themselves in harms way
     
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    Oh so the ones that give their life protecting the meek are somehow worse to you?

    People who are called to serve things other than themselves, they're to be mocked and ridiculed?

    Just this statement alone makes everyone here better than you at life.
     
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    Sometimes it's necessary to put yourself In harm's way. Life isn't safe I would think a smart person would understand this. But again you have your own meaning for the word intelligence and facts so why wouldn't you have your own meaning for smart.

    I think you're quite a bit egocentric perhaps that's why you try to push your propaganda here on this board.
     
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    If feminism is about equality then you a self-proclaimed feminists should be fighting for equality and you're no.

    That's the point.

    You can lie to yourself but don't attack me when I don't believe you.
     
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    I think the question in the OP is why was this almost universal across all cultures?
     
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    Because women were denied the education they needed in order to write their own history.

    The two highest ever recorded IQ scores BOTH belong to women.

    What makes you believe that this was any different in the past?

    Let's take a case study of a traditional male dominated culture and see what happens when you remove male dominance.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387823/

    Or to put it in simple terms it is WOMEN who have a CIVILIZING effect on men!

    If men are left to themselves they will behave aggressively and oppress women.

    When women take control they won't tolerate the aggression or the oppression.

    So we can thank women for the civilization that we enjoy today even if men were not smart enough to record the impact that women had on bringing it about.
     
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    Probably take you a while

    Thought so, instead of answering the question you avoid it.

    Give me a coulple of ground breaking advancement that woman have done since being "libirated".

    Like say creating the internet (done by a man btw)
     

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