If you are a Republican, you have no one top vote for.

I am a Republican anti-Trumper.

Watching the DEms the last two night made me realize, they have no candidate for me.
The Dems are a party for blacks, women and Hispanics.

The GOP is now a party for white lunatic haters with no morals.

So there is no candidate for a life long Republican to vote for. If you are white male, educated and ethical you are on your own with no one willing to represent you.

Unbelievable.

 

Pretty much feel the same as a fiscally responsible, socially progressive Independent. Trump is toxic and most of the Dems are fiscally irresponsible.

 

One caveat, Trump is also fiscally irresponsible.

 

The Democrats aren't pushing for totalitarianism and a dictator. So they are the best vote.

The republicans are very very dangerous and need to be eliminated as a party.

I too was a republican. NEVER NEVER again. Trump is the most dangerous sob I've seen in my lifetime. This is insanely out of control - an Orwellian nightmare come true.

Support the candidate that can defeat trump. That is all that you really need to know. Anyone is better. Things have gotten so bad, and the trump movement is so intrinsically dangerous to liberty, that I prefer to just break up the country. Amend the Constitution to allow secession and just end this nightmare.

I want no part of a country that wants someone like trump.

 

I agree the GOP is a disgusting mess...

but I don't understand why a white educated ethical male would not feel "represented" by any of the candidates.

What issues are you concerned about exactly?

 

The debt, the debt and the debt.
I am in favor of non-student paid school, when the debt is paid.
I am in favor of single payer healthcare, when the debt is paid.
I am in favor of a MASSIVE infrastructure bill, when the debt is paid.
I am in favor of a massive investment on clean energy, when the debt is paid.
I am in favor of vastly expanded subsidized housing, when the debt is paid.
I am in favor of universal public service/military inscription.
I am against the regressive SS tax.
I am against the low capital gains tax. Income should be income. Period.
I am resentful of women ALWAYS claiming victimization.
I am resentful of blacks ALWAYS claiming victimization.

 

I totally agree. In the end I will vote against Trump. No matter who it is.

 

When you find a party that represents us let me know, there are more of us than I think either of us realize.

I frequent find myself asking wtf is going on — when members of either party talk.

I wish I could like your posts more than once.

First thing we must do is end the two party control of our entire government

 

Ross Perot wasn't serious about being president when he ran in 1992 on charts and graphs and debt. And nobody will ever convince him to run again.

 

Mitt? Mitt Romney . . . that is you . . . isn't it? Essentially you just called all Trump supporters members of the Deplorables. So perhaps you can manage to get Hillary Clinton to run again. A match made in heaven between a pseudo Republican and Lady Corruption. Sweet!

 

Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, hee hee hee. Says the people wanting people jailed or fired or hounded from public life because they don't agree with them politically.

Oh and for what it's worth your projection dully noted...

 

I see you use the phrase fiscal responsible instead of fiscal conservative much like I do most of the time. Those are two different things although a long time ago, i.e. during Eisenhower there were considered one and the same.

I'm in the same boat as you. I see no one as of yet that I could climb on board and support. Although the list of whom I won't vote for is growing come November 2020

 

You spoke my mind. It makes me ill to watch Trump Republicans -- not real Republicans -- trip all over themselves in their support for that buffoon we call President. On PF, his fans can't even defend him. They avoid reality.

 

Well for two nights we've watched a party dominated by light weights, fly weights, has beens, and never wases promise to make a great leap forward. Fortunately much of the American Public remembers what great leaps forward by leftist usually have meant historically, mass graves. Now don't get me wrong this bunch, the callow, and the shallow, the dumb and the dumber, don't really intend to kill anyone, they don't have the stomach for it or for that matter the intellectual acumen to understand where all this crap they are promising leads eventually or the intellectual honesty to admit it if they do. NOt that they actually care it's just they've been preaching this malarkey for so long now that they simply don't know what else to do, so Bernie did what he always does launch a long winded rant the better to conceal the fact that he has never really put a lot of thought into what he's saying. It's all in the cadence, if it sounds good it will work just fine, just like the titanic being unsinkable, Biden acted old and white and two steps from the grave which he certainly is at least the first two. Kamala ripped him a new one relying on the fact that she is black and female to shield her from the displeasure, if any, from the Democrats establishment wing. Fauxcahontas got center stage in round one but not only failed to seize the spot light but looked damn uncomfortable in it's glare. All in all no one up there excites very much of anyone just yet including it seems themselves. But then their is still yet time the main event is still eight months away and there is plenty of time for this bunch of me toos to become something meaningful

 

Okay...

I don't see what your white male background has to do with any of that...

 

So basically your against any of those first few things because doing any of those in essence means the debt will never be paid.

 

They are not as fiscally irresponsible as Red. I have given up as well - there are things I find appealing about a few Blue candidates - Gabbard for example - but the Dem party hates her. Rand Paul on the other side seems pretty good as well in some ways but he is pretty much an outcast on the Red side.

 

I have to disagree with you on the totalitarianism part. The canaries in the coal mine of totalitarianism were screeching very loudly under Obama. The Dems are just not as obvious about it as Red - that's the main difference. Both Red and Blue Establishment hate the founding principles, limited Gov't power, and individual liberty.

Law on the basis of Utilitarianism is Totalitarianism - it just sounds warm and fuzzy -but this makes it all that much more insidious.

 

You are not a conservative. You are an establishment liberal Republican like Romney and Kasich.

 

First time I've ever seen someone demanding a balanced budget before anything else be called a liberal. Whatever. Trump FanBoys demand that their Orange God's ass be kissed before they'll consider you a "true" conservative.

 

So, you only read his first fricking item?

Try reading all of his items and you will see he is not a conservative. He is a liberal.

 

You think liberals are calling for mandatory military service? Weird. I guess I missed that one.

 

Just a suggestion, but from the impression I get a from your post and the amount of house leftist and EVEN the foreign socialist "Likes" you have received I would think declaring a party change to Democrat would be the more popular route for you at this point!

Good luck

 

I'm leaning towards the good old fashion RINO on this.. Of course I'll have to examine the dung piles to make a final decision

 

If the only people you allow into your club are Trump FanBoys, it's going to be tough to win elections in the future. You gotta have Independents and rhinos if you want to keep the Senate.