If You Are Not Taking COVID-19 Seriously At This Point, I’ve Got A Strong Message For You

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    Anyone believe covid-19 is a hoax? I believe the covid-19 death toll is much higher too?!! I take the pandemic seriously?!!

    This week the U.S. passed a grim milestone—a record 500,000 COVID-19 cases in seven days. HALF A MILLION CASES IN ONE ******N WEEK.

    According to USA Today, that means that we had an American testing positive every 1.2 seconds. And it’s more than that, because these are only the people who went out and got tested. We know there are people with asymptomatic and milder cases who don’t always get tested, but they are out there and can pass the virus to others, who can get seriously ill.

    Johns Hopkins estimated that one American died every 107 seconds this week. Yesterday, over 1000 Americans died of COVID. This is the trajectory many experts expect will happen as our numbers tick up all over the country: 1000+ deaths a day.

    Things are bad, people. Really freaking bad. Tragic, really. The second (or third, whatever you want to call it) wave is here, and it’s dark. Dark AF. It’s different from the spring, where the virus was more localized: now, it’s widespread all over the damn country.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/not-...062620865.html


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  2. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm sorry to hear this. It looks like any semblance of a coordinated national effort has evaporated. It's every man woman and child for themselves. I really feel for the Frontline medical workers who put their lives in the firing line every day
     
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    I take it as seriously as anything that has a 0.0x chance of killing me.

    Funny thing is going to the hospital for medical care kills more people by malpractice than Covid.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    In that case you'll be happy to take up the volunteer offer? ( Pic above ) :)
     
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    I already volunteer at a hospice/nursing home taking care of older veterans.

    Since I don't have diabetes, obesity and heart problems I have more chance of dying on the drive there than dying from Covid.

    I've probably already had it anyway, like most people.
     
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    You are very good at signaling fear, Kenneth. Have you been reading much from the Book of Fauci?

    In fact, the infection fatality rate, as flawed as it is because the actual number of infections is much higher than the official number, shows the virus to be about as fatal as the seasonal flu.
     
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    I get the seriousness. On another note, in one year tens of millions came down with the flu which killed eighty thousand Americans. And no one batted an eye. There were no shutdowns, no masks, no social distancing, no public service announcements, no posted data, no press conferences, nada, nothing. Life went on and here we are. Are eighty thousand dead Americans, nothing?
     
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    There is a difference between 'taking it seriously' and letting fear overwhelm you. The attempt at fear factors has become the main goal for some, and ostracization of people for not giving into the fear factor has driven people in the opposite direction.

    If you fear the virus, then stay home. Let people who don't fear it, deliver your groceries, your meals, and hunker down for as long as your savings holds out. Just stop asking for other people to support you while you remove yourself from society.
     
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    and in Sweden, their mortality rate per 100k is no higher with Covid than pre-covid years; all with no lockdowns or masking up. Naturally, we won't hear about that because it's an election year and orange man is bad
     
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    With extra fedmoney they get per case, they can afford to pay at least minimum wage for that. And just because everyone is recorded as having died from Cvirus doesnt mean hospitals arent still full of other diseases way worse than Covfefe99.
     
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    Yes, because it's All About You and not about the high-risk elderly residents. Thank everything there is to give thanks for that everyone who visits my mum's nursing home here in Australia aren't self-absorbed wankers who think Covid is just like the flu and no risk to anyone. I cannot stress how strong a sense of stenchy disgust I feel for selfish and hatefilled Americans who risk older peoples lives by not wearing masks and ignoring basic hygiene because of Freedum or whatever nonsense it is that they carry on with.
     
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    Dunno.

    statistics seem to vary.


    Sweden, which has stood out among European countries for its low-key approach to fighting the coronavirus pandemic, has recorded its highest tally of deaths in the first half of 2020 for 150 years, the Statistics Office said.

    Covid-19 claimed about 4,500 lives in the period to the end of June – a number that has now risen to 5,800 – a much higher percentage of the population than in other Nordic nations, though lower than in some others, including Britain and Spain.

    In total, 51,405 Swedes died in the six-month period, a higher number than in any year since 1869, when 55,431 people died, partly as a result of a famine. The population of Sweden was about 4.1 million then, compared with 10.3 million now.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eath-tally-in-150-years-in-first-half-of-2020
     
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    I'll readily admit I fear the virus. Not for what it'd do to me, but the near certain death sentence it'd deliver to my elderly parents. I stay home and avoid crowds because I fear for my parents. I fear for my daughter who was born with a congenital birth defect and is considered high risk if she got Covid. I wear a mask if I have to be in a situation where I can't social distance. I don't do it for me, I do it to protect the people around me who may not fare so well. I work from home and was glad that my government gave a lifeline to workers in small business during lockdowns. The delivery driver who delivered the takeaway to my place when everything was shut was at no risk at all. Unless people are really stupid in the US, it's very easy to drop deliveries at the front door and do contactless delivery...
     
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    So? Are you going to volunteer to help? You might just be able to reduce that medical error rate that America has
     
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    I am lucky and cross my fingers because I live in an area with a large number of indigenous people and Virtually the whole town has one sentiment - we have to protect them they are too vulnerable. We have been soooooooooo lucky so far
     
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    Sweden has a higher population than ever before, so it's obviously not unlikely to have higher death tallies even if death rates were similar.

    Sweden's infection season last year was mild, so there was a surplus of fuel for this virus. They already admitted problems in their nursing homes as well.
     
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    Double negative confusing.
    True, but Sweden has suffered some horrific epidemics when the population was smaller.
    Spanish flu took out 34,500 Swedes.
    “Dysentery, or rödsot, as the disease was previously known in Sweden, continues to be a major scourge in developing countries. However, the disease has almost disappeared in the West. Very different circumstances prevailed before infectious diseases declined as some of the major causes of death during the 19th century. In that era, 10,000 people could die of dysentery in a single year in Sweden.”
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs...scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=shis20
     
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    The point is, simple claims like "highest death tally in 150 years" is deceiving, because it doesn't mention that Sweden has a higher population than any other year in those 150 years.
     
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    Yes, bad example, sorry.
     
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    Of course statistics vary. The statistics are heavily manipulated so that the official narrative can be supported and so that the herd can remain in stampede. Statistics are the results of bogus PCR tests and financial incentives for those keeping the statistics.

    Agenda 201 records and many more show this to have been a planned event. For those in denial of that fact statistics reinforce the fear factor.

    Sweden did not suffer the mass hysteria we still experience here in the US. They remained cool calm and collected because their leaders were cool calm and collected.

    We run around as masked ninnies here in the US, afraid of our shadows. It's very sad.

    I very much envy the relative peace in Sweden.
     
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    Then staying at home is the right option for you.

    Forcing those who do not have the circumstances you do to comply with a lockdown or mask order, or ridiculing them from living their life, is not justified.
     
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    Bad news!..

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
     
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    Fatal should be the least of worries for most people except those in a high risk category. What should be concerning for everyone else is the possibility of long-term complications, especially with the lungs. A long-term illness can impact the quality of life making being alive a constant nightmare.
     
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    Why does everyone who thinks Covid-19 is a joke always mentions the mortality rate? It's the long-term complications that should be worrisome to everyone. It could be you who will need special care from a loved one, or a loved will have to take care of you. Are either situations not a concern with you?
     
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    Because it puts in perspective that the mortality rate is not high enough to justify economically-devastating lockdowns.
    Agreed. The long-term consequences of the economic damage caused by lockdowns should be very worrisome to everyone.
    Concern over COVID should be more of a personal matter, rather than a national lockdown situation.
     
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