IG Report...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wh.. wh... what happened? Can any of you explain? We have been expecting a "bombshell". I thought Obama would be in handcuffs by this time today, judging by some of the posts quoted here.

    And with all that "insider" knowledge that right wingers have been bringing from such notable "pilars of journalism" like Breitbart, Infowars, Mark Levine, ... I mean..

    Believe it or not, the intention of this post is not to gloat. I want to ask a serious question: what would it take to make you guys just stop paying attention to conspiracy theories and instead start relying on facts?

    Those who refuse to look at reality will just add more names to the "Deep State" conspiracy theory. But if anybody out there is kinda tired at being lied to all the time... let us know.

     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don’t worry, that’s what Durhams criminal investigation is for.
     
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    What's for you to gloat about? This entire FISA thing is devastating for the FBI and supports a claim some were after him and used the phony dossier to go after him and his campaign.
     
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  4. Rush_is_Right

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    The intention of your post is not to gloat yet you are gloating. Hang tough and enjoy, it's all just the beginning.
     
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    Yay! A state functionary may be taken down by other state functionaries. Fun stuff. Where's the popcorn?
     
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    The FBI didn't come off looking very good. Whatever you think about Snowden, it was clear we needed to massively overhaul our intelligence agencies. Since that didn't happen, and it's not even a blip on the radar, we can assume it's not going to happen. And we can assume from that the agencies have tremendous power.

    I would not be surprised at all to discover an agency like the NSA is illegally monitoring Americans. Again. I would be surprised if they weren't.
     
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    Time to abolish The Patriot Act. What a foolish name for an ACT.
     
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    None of the posts you link are in any way contradicted by the IG Report or anything in it, so what's your point, other than to show you know how to use the forum's cut/paste function?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have absolutely nothing to gloat about. The IG report states things you either want to hide or are not privy to. There will be far more to come, then we'll discuss.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These are all excellent observations
    The Steel "dosier" was part of a Russian disinformation campaign. Steel was violently oppose to Trump from the beginning. Hillary paid him for the dosier. It was used to obtain a FISA warrant. Russia laughed about it for 2 years. .....so did Sandy. Now it;s over. We are going to discover the "Genesis" of the Mueller investigation.

    The walls are coming crashing down on the corrupt Obama DOJ.

    It's beginning to look like the Obama admin fully adopted a Stalinist attitude when dealing with political rivals.

    This bombshell is a huge development .....it's what is often referred to as a "smoking gun"

    It all goes back to Obama.

    The Mueller report is the results of the Mueller investigation in the Mueller investigation started because the Steele dossier in the Steele dossier what's fraudulent.

    Hopefully Barr won’t allow this to be kicked down the road. The media will bury it. If you ever get picked up by these guys in the future. I wouldn’t talk to the FBI, CIA or DOJ knowing what I now know.

    Now we know why the IG report isn't out yet, the investigation has been extended after investigators grilled Steele about his role with the FBi, the dossier and the fisa warrants. I find it interesting that all the Obama heads of his intelligent services have suddenly gone dark after being MSM mouthpieces.

    Will you, or will you start smearing Horowitz, Barr, etc. as being 'in the tank' for Trump or something?

    Mueller has refused to talk about Page, Ohr, Strozk, the Steele Dossier, the origin of the Russia investigation and fusion GPS. That makes me think Barr and to IG are headed in the right direction.

    it is the crudball, America-hating Democrat Party whose operatives are coming under microscopic legal scrutiny for leveraging their bought-and-paid-for "Steele Dossier" into a fraud 'investigation' and witch hunt designed to sabotage the legitimate government of the United States.

    You can't possibly be that naive.
    The dems contrived it. Hillary and the DNC paid for it. Fusion GPS Hired Nellie- to inside track it. They "exposed" it. They fed it to the media, instigated the "investigation". Then ranted and raved over it ever since...

    And you wonder why nobody wants to discuss your "points".

    Denial is everything ....

    A major developing the Durham investigation has moved from an administrative investigation into a criminal investigation. This means they have found crimes. This means he can subpoena witnesses and documents and seat a grand jury. This has to do with the start of the Trump collusion investigation. Lots high pucker factor going on in DC tonight.

    Leaks coming out today are providing evidence that the Steele dossier was really the Obama dossier.

    American people will finally learn the truth that the Steele dossier WAS IN FACT used in Obama Administrations Intelligence Community Assessment! Obama’s Dossier

    IG report should be out to confirm this within the next few hours.

    Then also used that phony dossier to start an investigation on Trump in hopes of impeaching him. It was more like a cope against an elected government. A lot of people are in trouble over this.

    How much would you like to bet that when it's time for Trump to declassify documents that disclose the details of the witch hunt, that Democrats will all of a sudden advocate keeping them from the public in the name of unifying the country.

    Are you defending the made up dossier that was illegally used to get the warrants for the investigation?

    It will all come out. That's why the human waste in the House is trying desperately to smear Trump.

    Now to the real issues. How the Obama administration weaponized the DOJ and courts to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump, using the famous fake and totally discredited Steele dossier, which was funded by democrats
     
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    I was correct. Your apology is accepted.
     
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    Theres nothing particularly wrong with hoping the establishment can be coaxed into fixing itself, but its a rather foolish expectation.

    Hopefully folks will drop the 'Q' crap now and start taking it to their representatives. We gotta put pressure on em, cuz the deep state sure as hell is.
     
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    He was appointed by Obama.......nuff said. Remember the name James Baker, ya'all will be screaming it later.
     
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    The major fact is believable. Nobody in the FBI admitted to political motivations. Consider the reality "looked at."
     
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    Since it is, as you say, "the intention of this post not to gloat", perhaps you'd like to go into equally careful detail to tell us what the Democrats WERE intending to do with their bought-and-paid-for "Steele Dossier" when they used it to leverage a FISA investigation!

    Perhaps you'd also like to suggest a reason WHY the FBI deviated from standard procedure in the processing of THIS particular investigation no fewer than SEVENTEEN TIMES, and why it failed even to ask the all-important question of exactly WHO PAID FOR the "Steele Dossier" in the first place?!

    Obviously, there's been some pretty surprising 'behind-the-scenes' negotiations and trade-off's involved in this white-wash, but what the final outcome will be is still unknown.

    Nevertheless, just go ahead and enjoy your "gloat" anyway, although something tells me that it may be relatively short-lived.... :hiding:
     
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    The report shows the rot in the FBI.

    People who would do whatever it took to overthrow the government.
     
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    [​IMG]. "Just play along, Abbott -- we've only got a few more years until we can RETIRE...." :roll:
     
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    I am not one that has made any assertions about the final outcome of investigations into this matter. With that being said, if Durham with his greater investigatory powers were to issue indictments relating to the origins of this investigation, would you acknowledge then that those people that did make those predictions may have had a point? It seems to me like you are perhaps prematurely celebrating when the investigation into the matter is clearly not finished. Personally, I will wait for all of the information before passing judgment, but in my mind, the words of Barr and Durham yesterday both seem to indicate that more is coming.
     
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    Hey! Although I disagree with everything Golem posts here and everywhere, at least give credit where credit is due.. I have seen some that couldn't even master that!
     
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    The actual horse pulling the manure wagon supplies one of the main reasons as to why the manure wagon exists in the first place.

    The National Security Division (NSD) inside the DOJ is where all of the collaboration regarding the Russia-Trump-dossier took place.
    The NSD is a sub-division within the DOJ similar to the Counterintelligence Division within the FBI.

    John Carlin was the guy who attached the dossier to the first FISA application that was approved.

    John Carlin, was the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the DOJ National Security Division. The agency division that operates with no accountability or oversight.


    Fredo can claim no political motivation all day long as long as he doesn't mention the DOJ.
     
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    Famous last words.

    Translation: "You may have won this time, Gadget! But I'll get you next time You'll see!"
     
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    The state functionaries could't nab the other state functionary? Bummer. I love when they eat themselves.
     
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    To obtain dirt on Trump, of course!

    What else?

    Because deviating from "standard procedure" would be more effective to trap the witches. And they were right!

    In the first place? Why Republican never-trumpers, of course. And in second place, it was taken over by the Hillary campaign.

    Why do you ask? What is the relevance?

    Well... looks like they didn't impress the IG, in whom you had so many high hopes placed on, much

    I repeat what I said: Famous last words

    Translation: "You may have won this time, Gadget! But I'll get you next time You'll see!"
     
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    Dang, No way that the government functionaries could indict the other government functionary? It's so much fun to see them fighting amongst themselves.
     
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    Well... it also means that you better watch what you write. Because it can come back to bite ya!
     

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