Ilhan Omar refuses to Condemn al Qaeda or Communism.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you seem to be confused, Trump lost the popular vote, that is just a fact
     
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    were talking about the popular vote, not one states votes, try to keep up

    total American votes <> 1 states votes
     
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    Oh, we all know why they won't condemn communism or Al Qaeda.
    Bullshit, ours secures OUR rights, Communism is always a small group exploiting everyone else.
    You think?
    Sure, if only the Sophomore Class at Santa Cruz State could implement, why it would be Utopia!
    Theories do kill people, using those that believe these vile theories as their weapons.
    Nice of AOC to make that decision for them, let's see what they have to say at the ballot box about AOC "saving" them from all those "unnecessary" jobs!

    GIRONDISTS, MEET THE MONTAGNARDS: The ‘Squad’ aims to guillotine the Democratic old guard.

    The socialist party has absorbed what is left of the old Democrats. At first, the progressive old guard in Congress, like good Girondists, found the revolutionary carnivores useful in reducing the ranks of the Trumpians, the Tea Party, Reagan Democrats, old Perot voters and the white working class to the inanimate status of “deplorables,” “irredeemables,” “clingers” and “dregs” — and with them, the bigoted, racist, sexist, nativist, classist, homophobic and xenophobic GOP.

    Certainly, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and a few geriatric sympathizers such as Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Dick Turbin enjoyed the progressive feasting on the ancien régime — especially the unity offered by shared hatred of the obviously soon-to-be-impeached, deposed, exiled and discredited President Trump.

    But revolutionary carnivores are rarely sated. Once they run out of easy hostile targets, they get hungry and as cannibals start to eye their own.

    So, enjoy your just desserts!
     
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    A fact that doesn't matter in a national election and when you consider those extra votes were concentrated to specific heavily Leftist counties, do the math. Trump didn't lose the popular vote across the entire nation, which is most important fact. He only lost heavily in a couple districts around LA and NYC. If he was so unpopular nation wide, he would have easily lost the election.
     
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    Yes they are...

    They can't hide their DEMOCRAT PARTY HATE
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares about AOC. She is a powerless one termer.
     
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    it matter when your talking about who most people voted for, which we were

    Less American voters voted for Trump then Hillary, that is just a fact, live with it
     
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    She has condemned terrorism...one only has to search, rather than listening to Trump

    “These people are taking part in terror and their whole ideology is based on terrorizing the communities that they would like to have an influence in,” Omar said, later adding that she does not share the group’s ideology.

    Omar, Oct. 13, 2013: When you have an individual inside a Western society that does go on and does commit mass murders, we have mass shootings that happen constantly here, we investigate that person, and what has driven them to commit that act. When an act is committed by these Muslim, you know, terrorists, what we investigate is that whole community. We investigate that whole faith. We investigate that whole society. And everyone is supposed to have some answer to why these people are doing this, when it is those individuals that people need to be investigating. It is their lives that needs to be under the microscope, not the lives of the rest of the community. Because, I am not part of al-Shabab. I do not participate. … In the context of what al-Shabab stands for, I do not share that ideology. So for someone to require an explanation from me as to why they’re committing these heinous acts, to me is inconceivable. It doesn’t make any sense.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/trumps-false-claims-about-rep-ilhan-omar/
     
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    Which popular vote there were 51 of them? There was a one popular vote. Do try to keep up with how elections work in this country.
     
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    He did a few days in a row.. People like you ignored it.
     
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    I agree.

    Pretty vague. You talking about SWG?
     
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    Man, it takes some conviction to pretend that hard.

    The fact of the matter is that American all across the country understand that they participate in the same election, and that this election has some rules that allow the majority of votes to go to the loser.
     
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    I'm not saying that Trump isn't doing what he should be doing here. He's being a big fat racist, and that's his plan. Your characterization of his planning here is what I'm taking issue with. His action had the opposite effect you claimed it was meant to provoke, and he knew that.

    What are you talking about? What strawman did I build? I was explaining that centrist Democrats are extremely touchy on the issue of race, and will leap to the defense of a war criminal to look "woke." Pelosi isn't driving anybody away by defending Ilhan Omar from Trump, that's the kneejerk reaction from anybody who even thinks about voting Democrat.

    That invalidates your chain of reasoning, that Sanders couldn't beat Hillary and therefore couldn't beat Trump.

    Well, I'm telling you what I really meant.

    Here, this has to be pretty easy to understand: A conservative in 1860s France and a conservative in 21st Century America are two completely different kinds of people politically. The former is anti-liberal, the latter IS liberal.

    I don't think Levin is far right, at all. Savage is clearly, clearly, a fascist. Levin is a conservative.

    Yes, that's more or less the kind of scale I'm using. I place liberals (including American conservatives) in the middle and move them left from there. It's clunky, any attempt to put political positions on some kind of graph are. It's not the kind of thing that can really be quantified.

    What are you talking about?

    They certainly, certainly aren't.

    A very "libertarian" viewpoint.

    "Great Replacement" ring a bell?

    Holy ****, somebody get Sobo in here.

    I only remember a few specific things that George W Bush said, but I don't need to remember certain snippets verbatim to remember who George W Bush was.

    You're being hysterical, man. Calm down.

    Umm, everybody who was active in communities like this in the mid 2000s knew.

    lol, no ****ing ****. He was parroting neo-Nazi (and I mean that literally) talking points. I didn't know that at the time.

    That's for sure.

    Yeah, and if you talk to real "believer" Christians you're going to get the same kinds of responses, bud. Even believer Christians move on the issues, and believer Muslims do and will.

    No, just someone who ascribes to the same politics.

    Frederic Bastiat and Jean-Baptiste Say were some of the greatest libertarian thinkers ever. I strongly recommend Bastiat, you'd like him.

    Nope. I think liberals are in the middle. American liberals and conservatives are very close to each other in terms of fundamental principles. That's changing.

    Sure, I agree, I just think they're very very slightly left or right of center.


    Some middle school political philosophy, there.

    I think that Trump and Pence are much more fringe than you realize. Agree about Scalia and Kavanaugh though.

    Haha yeah, you're showing a real knack for nuance here.

    What do you think I'm triggered by?

    It's not a petty jab, it's a simple straightforward fact. Do you think Andrew Jackson would govern like Trump? Trump is Bill Clinton who pretends to be Andrew Jackson. Ronald Reagan who pretends to be William Jennings Bryan. A neoliberal in every important aspect of governance. The TPP was the only significant diversion from this pattern.
     
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    Yeah sure it did.
     
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    Trump fans do not understand hypocrisy because they bathe in it.
     
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    No one had a problem with it except Democrats because everyone that knows the law, understands it really doesn’t matter. 2 extra votes or 2 millions extra votes. Doesn’t matter when it’s contained in only a couple of districts. Democrats LOST because all those extra votes weren’t spread out across the nation like they need to be. Blame Hillary for ignoring massive swaths of the country. But that was her character. She truly didn’t give a **** about anyone who couldn’t help her. Just imagine what that sort of attitude means to states she doesn’t like. We all saw how she treated people. Being extra popular in a few heavily Leftist districts has no bearing on national elections, nor should it.

    Live with that. Democrats nearly died with that. Not literally. They all just died inside, screaming and fainting. Had to be delicious being in the room when Hillary suddenly realized she lost. I wonder if you heard her icy heart crack;)
     
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    Jews will not replace us!!!!
     
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    False.

    The 131 Black Men Murdered by Black Lives Matter
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264587/131-black-men-murdered-black-lives-matter-daniel-greenfield


    False.

    The #BlackLivesMatter Kill List: At Least 11 Cops Shot Dead – 9 More Wounded By #BLM Supporters
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...st-11-cops-shot-dead-9-wounded-blm-criminals/


    False.

    FBI results: Cop murder problem caused by BLM, media
    https://www.spartareport.com/2017/05/fbi-results-cop-murder-problem-caused-by-blm-media/


    You're right, there is no "radical" Islam, Islam is Islam.

    "Turkey's strongman, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, may have exhibited all possible features of political Islam since he came to power fifteen years ago, but at least he has been bold and honest about his understanding of Islamism: There is no moderate Islam, he recently said again."
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11484/erdogan-moderate-islam
     
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    A better question is where do left-wingers get their pure, unadulterated, evil hatred of everything that IS their own.
     
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    So if anyone who ever associated with any particular group has committed a crime, THE WHOLE GROUP IS GUILTY, right? Guilt by association?

    Well them:
    https://nypost.com/2018/07/11/neo-nazi-found-guilty-of-killing-10-people-receives-life-sentence/

    https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/07/15/...ng-in-murder-of-protester-in-charlottesville/

    https://news.yahoo.com/neo-nazi-faces-sentencing-murder-091250663.html



    More guilt by association. You're trying to make it look like BLM is behind such murders.

    Trump may have exhibited all possible features of white supremacists since he came to power 2 1/2 years ago.
     
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    No people across the country realize they are voting for their slate of electors and nothing more. I didn't vote for Trump but then he was going to win my state handily. It effects the total vote outcome uniquely and individually to each state. There may have been more Trump voters to come out in California if we all voted in one big national vote. The rules of each election are entirely different some people voting weeks before other people are allowed to. And of course candidates would campaign entirely different.

    Tallying up the results of those 51 unique and separate elections may make for some interesting trivia but it does not represent want an actual national popular vote results might have been. That is statistical and electoral folly.
     
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    She is the face of the Justice Democrats who are trying to primary pretty much every moderate D out there....
     
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    More like guilt by misprision of a felony. If you encourage someone else to commit a crime, you are guilty. Suppose David Duke had gotten up on a stage somewhere and encouraged neo-Nazis to drive cars into left-wing protestors. Do you really think David Duke wouldn't be guilty of murder in the Charlottesville case? What we actually have in Charlottesville is a lone actor, but if someone encouraged him to do it, that person, too, would be guilty of a crime. BLM actively encouraged blacks to kill cops, and they did. That makes BLM guilty of murder.
     
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    Can you prove that?
     
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