Ilhan Omar refuses to Condemn al Qaeda or Communism.

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    That doesn't matter. And the reason it doesn't matter isn't because of the electoral college, it's because that's not how the game was played. If the game was played under different rules, Trump would have played the game differently, but he might still have won. You're assuming that the popular vote would have been the same if the election had been based on the popular vote, but you don't actually know that. Instead of spending all his time in Florida and Pennsylvania, Trump would have spent more time in California and New York and may have won 1.6 million more votes and the election. You're basing your sore loser talk on a faulty assumption, that you wouldn't have lost if the game had been played differently, but you don't know that. You might have lost anyway.
     
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    Ilhan Omar refuses to Condemn al Qaeda or Communism.
    And Trump refuses to condemn the Ku Klux Clan, or white supremacist groups. How is that any better?
     
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    Long walk if your car doesn't work and gas isn't available. However, it looks like the right-wing lunatic fringe are willing to start Civil War II before they're willing to live in a Venezuela type situation, so maybe it won't come to that.
     
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    This has been debunked several times already, including in this very thread. How many times are you people going to repeat the same lie?

    ""Racism is evil," said Trump, two days after a driver rammed a car into a crowd of people in the midst of violent clashes over a white nationalist rally in the city. "And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the [Ku Klux Klan], neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.""

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...te-groups-including-kkk-neo/story?id=49208560
     
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    Trump supports sure seem to, it really upsets them when they are reminded that Trump won with millions less votes then Hillary
     
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    lol, Trump also calls them "Fine People" - Trump talks out both sides of his mouth

    did you hear the chants "send her back" and how Trump handled that, he says many things, course most things he says are lies sadly
     
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    it only matter when your discussing the popular vote, and Trump got less votes then Hillary, that is just a fact for the history books
     
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    Since Jews & Asians are doing better in America than white people, it's fair to say that we already have equal opportunities for people of all ethnic backgrounds. What we're fighting against is bringing in so many brown socialists from countries to our south that we become just another brown socialist shithole like every country to our south. That is not unreasonable. If
    demography is destiny, and I believe it is, our current destiny is to look like Mexico, or even worse, Brazil, or worse yet, Venezuela. None of those countries are remotely like America and America won't be America anymore if we look like those countries.
     
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    No one discusses the popular vote except sore losers like yourself. We lost to Obama, you lost to Trump. Get over it already.

    And yes, I'm a grammar Nazi, so I have to point out the numerous errors in your post... "It only matters when you're discussing the popular vote, and Trump got fewer votes than Hillary. That is just a fact for the history books."
     
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    sure we do, when people say most voters supported Trump, the popular vote shows that not to be true

    that is ok, as long as you know what you are, I am a bad at grammar and spelling, I admit it
     
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    No one says that. No one on the right cares about the results of the popular vote. When Bill Clinton couldn't win 50%+1 of the popular vote, a few Republicans pointed out that he couldn't claim any kind of "mandate" for his policies, but no one on the Republican side denied that he had won the vote. And since only about 50% of the adult population votes in any case, no candidate since George Washington could say most voters supported him. Hillary got about 24% of the adult populace's votes, Trump about 23%, with a few percentage points split among the Green & Libertarian party candidates. That is the reality. 50% of the population didn't want either candidate.
     
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    sure seems you care to me or you would not make such a big deal saying it was not a big deal that Trump lost the popular vote - lol
     
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    Look in the mirror.
     
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    Guess we should believe Trump over you once again... Color me shocked.
     
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    Trump is famous for his flip-flops. What did he do AFTER making the statement you cited in your post? Did he stick with that statement in future actions? Or not? Trump is an undependable person. Defending him or his actions could become a full-time, thankless job.
     
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    So FOS today, as he point blank said there are fine people on both not involved with the KKK nor Antifa, he was right then and right now.
     
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    This is what you call a whiff of a post, you were proven wrong period.
     
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    sadly a women died that day and Trump could not bring himself to denounce the white nationalists for days

    he had to have his speech writers tell him what to say and then ruined it by telling how he really felt again after
     
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    I do care that less voters support Trump then his Opponent and he still won, I am not the won saying I do not care

    can you imagine the outrage if Obama lost the popular vote but still won... I can


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    See my post #365 below, as a response to this.
     
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    I'm not wrong if Trump's later behaviors contradict his public statement wherein he disavows support for the Ku Klux Clan &/or white supremacists. Trump is often insincere in his public statements, & often refutes them later, both verbally & in his actions. Trump is undependable. . .his "values" are whatever profits Trump in any given situation. I am continuously amazed at the number of Americans willing to risk their loyalty to such an ethical flake & con man.
     
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    But you are the one accusing me of caring about it. I think I won this round.
     
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    seems you still care.. let it go, he lost the popular vote, so what, he still won - he just won with less votes then his opponent
     
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    Forum right wingers will never stop making up myths about Ilhan Omar. :lol:


    Just the other day the Republicans decided to run a candidate against her for the Minneapolis district. Interestingly they have chosen someone with a criminal record:


    Pro-Trump Republican aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar charged with felony theft
    Exclusive: Danielle Stella, reported to support baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, held twice this year over alleged shoplifting


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    Danielle Stella, the Republican running for Congress against Ilhan Omar in Minnesota. Stella earlier this week described Minneapolis as ‘the crime capital of our country’.

    A pro-Trump Republican candidate for Congress who is aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar in Minnesota has been charged with a felony after allegedly stealing from stores.



    Danielle Stella was arrested twice this year in Minneapolis suburbs over allegations that she shoplifted items worth more than $2,300 from a Target and goods valued at $40 from a grocery store. She said she denied the allegations.

    Stella, a 31-year-old special education teacher, was reported this week to be a supporter of the baseless “QAnon” conspiracy theory about Donald Trump battling a global cabal of elite liberal paedophiles.

    This week Stella also described Minneapolis as “the crime capital of our country”. She has in the past complained that local police were “overworked and overburdened” and said that, if elected, she would work to reduce crime.

    In a series of text messages, Stella said: “I am not guilty of these crimes. In this country I am innocent until proven guilty and that is the law.”

    She added: “If I was guilty of crimes, I would never run for public office, putting myself in the public eye under a microscope to be attacked by all political sides.”

    An attorney for Stella, Joshua London, declined to comment.

    Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police.

    A criminal complaint filed to Hennepin county district court alleged Stella was seen leaving the store without paying for most of her haul, after “scanning only a few other items” that were valued at about $50.

    Danielle Stella. In a series of text messages, Stella said: ‘I am not guilty of these crimes.’
    Facebook Twitter Pinterest Danielle Stella. In a series of text messages, Stella said: ‘I am not guilty of these crimes.’ Photograph: Bloomington police department
    The complaint said Stella told police in a statement she “remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else” due to post-traumatic stress disorder, and that she “normally she goes to Target with someone because of anxiety around people”.

    Stella has said publicly that she was the victim of a severe violent assault in 2008. She is charged with the thefts under her former surname, which the Guardian agreed not to report because she said it could endanger her safety.

    She is charged with felony theft over the incident at Target and faces a punishment of up to five years in prison and a fine of $10,000 if convicted, according to court filings.

    Police and court records said a warrant was put out for Stella’s re-arrest for alleged contempt of court on 4 April, after she failed to show up for a court hearing.

    Officers in nearby Bloomington then arrested Stella on 28 April after she was allegedly seen by security staff at a Cub Foods grocery store stealing a bottle of tick spray for cats, and placing other items “under her purse so that they could not be seen”.

    When they checked her identification, police officers discovered the open warrant for Stella’s arrest over her failure to appear in court for the earlier alleged shoplifting, their incident report said.

    The report said Stella was arrested for alleged misdemeanour theft for taking “cat merchandise” and cat food valued at $40.46. She was issued with a citation and given a date to appear in court. It was not clear whether authorities would pursue the contempt of court allegation.

    Stella’s candidacy has attracted interest from the far-right conspiracy website InfoWars, which broadcast an interview with her this week. Stella laughed and nodded as the host, J Owen Shroyer, called Omar “a witch” and said: “Everything about her is a fraud.”

    Describing Minneapolis during the interview as America’s “crime capital”, Stella falsely claimed that crime in the city had risen by 80% over the past year. According to Minneapolis police data, there has been a 10.7% uptick in serious crime year-on-year, following a 16.5% decline in 2018.

    The rightwing commentator Todd Starnes promoted Stella in an interview earlier this month on Fox News’s streaming service Fox Nation. “We certainly wish Miss Stella the very best,” Starnes said, adding that he hoped for a “significant change in representation” in Omar’s district.


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    Last month Stella officially registered with the Federal Election Commission as a candidate for the Republican nomination in Minnesota’s fifth congressional district. She later spoke at the “Demand Free Speech” rally in Washington.

    She has accused Omar of being a criminal for advising immigrants how to avoid agents from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. She said in a tweet that any representatives who fail to “uphold the rule of law” should be ejected from office.

    Court records say that in 2009, Stella pleaded guilty to driving while impaired from alcohol and fleeing a police officer. The latter charge was prosecuted as a felony but later classified as a gross misdemeanor as part of Stella’s plea.






    And the Republican candidate is a big conspiracy buff.

    Ha! Good luck with all that. :lol:
     
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