Illegal land grabs spreading across South Africa

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Where is the profanity and slurs... again false claims will not be tolerated anymore
     
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    I already sourced how many people got ethnically cleansed.

    Your detailed post doesn't even mention that you white people declared district 6 to be a white only area, where 10.000's of black people lived. That's why they had to go. That your source mentions it was something like a health hazard, doesn't explain why they weren't allowed to go back. If you white people didn't declare it a white only area, than there is no doubt they wouldn't have done anything about the situation there. And it's put on 3.5 million people.

    yeah... just focus on that, so you don't need to deny climate change.
     
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    Let me ask a question about something I said earlier.

    “25 years of Black rule have turned South Africa into a slum”
    (this post http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ss-south-africa.559195/page-6#post-1070832731)


    Is this racist?


    Technically no, as I’m not saying all blacks live in slums and turn their living areas into slums, however it’s pretty close and most likely offensive to a lot of black people. The problem however is that it is also true, and this is the Liberal dilemma of the 21st century.


    How can we begin to address problems, if we are not allowed to acknowledge them, since the first step to problem solving is acknowledging that you have a problem..


    Liberals scream, yell, label and silence conservatives who talk about these issues because god forbid they could be perceived as racist ….the end result is more people move towards the right because they can clearly see the problem liberals are ignoring and trying to misdirect attention from, with their labels of nazi and racist how dare you offend someone with your truth.

    And nothing is resolved, because you’re not allowed to acknowledge there is a problem.
     
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    You are projecting your bias and understanding of the Middle East onto South Africa... I will remind you that white South Africans have been in South Africa for almost 400 years and that the land they claim, a black South African could not survive on because they have never drilled for water...To survive in the western Cape you must sink a bore hole.
     
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    No evidence of ethnic cleansing nor of land grabbing you are merely spreading hatred and inciting violence with your claims... EVIDENCE... where is you EVIDENCE.

    btw how about you start addressing the situation in South Africa TODAY. You completely ignore the chaos, death, corruption, filth and anarchy.
     
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    In post 144. lol
     
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    Forced removal is not Ethnic cleansing and every time you make this claim without evidence I'm going to Point out that you are inciting hatred and violence towards another ethnic group by making false claims.

    The forced removal was addressed in your history lesson (Post #145) ... we'll go through it again.

    Residents were moved from squalid living areas BECAUSE

    Australia btw is moving aboriginals for the exact same reason the South Africans made the forced removals

    Squalid homes demolished, residents relocated from Aboriginal reserves, in shadow of big-money mines
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07...-housing-in-shadow-of-big-money-mines/9940500

    Again you keep going back to Apartheid and ignoring the dire state of South Africa as it stands today. I actually don't mind because I believe Apartheid is a conversation the world never had and absolutely should have had, unfortunately the media and liberals continuously shut conversation down and in spectacular fashion misinformed the world on Apartheid.... your misguided ethnic cleansing claims are testimony to this.

    Apartheid IS the solution to the complex South African problem and I don't care if anyone don't like me saying that. Apartheid was painted as something it was NOT. It was not segregation it was separate development and preservation of culture and language for all South Africans.

     
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    When you remove people by force because of their ethnic background and make them live in a designated area you think fits their ethnic background.... that you have ethnically cleansed them. And I will point out that South Africa has done this again and again.

    Not 1 country in the world backs this vial racist policy. In fact, people were rooting for the armed resistance against your white oppression.
     
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    You conveniently ignore Australia and the US moving native people into reserves :lol: Your definition of ethnic cleansing is grossly incorrect and creates a false narrative that incites hatred and violence towards another ethnic group

    The ANC's movement was so unpopular with black South Africans that they had to go to the Soviet Union and North Vietnam to learn how to terrorise their own people into uprising. It's called Mao Zedongs people's war. They tied black people up with wire then put a tyre around then and poured diesel on them then set them alight... they danced and sang songs around them until they smouldered. This is also used today to terrorise foreign nationals like Nigerians into leaving South Africa...it's called South African deportation the Mao Zedong way.

    Today in South Africa journalists are scared to write about what goes on in South Africa, the lessons of the people's war still with them. Ordinary blacks live in fear as the brutality of the people's war is also still among them.

    You have no knowledge nor understanding of the monster you support
     
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    off topic.

    you sure showed me. lol

    I sourced that crime has been going down since the end of apartheid.

    Says the person who supports racism like apartheid. It was so ugly you lot weren't even welcome at the olympics.
     
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    It's not off topic... forced removals right here.... in Australia. It's called health and sanitation, not sure how familiar you are with it.

    Squalid homes demolished, residents relocated from Aboriginal reserves, in shadow of big-money mines
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07...-housing-in-shadow-of-big-money-mines/9940500


    Yes I repeat any claims of ethnic cleansing
    Your definition of ethnic cleansing is grossly incorrect and creates a false narrative that incites hatred and violence towards another ethnic group

    Your source is incorrect 500 000 people have died in under 25 years... 40 000 political deaths in 40 years during Apartheid, 90% committed by the ANC in their people's war with complements from Mao Zedong


    Apartheid was not racist it was separate development, maintaining culture and language. Segregation was racist and it was brought to South Africa by the British... same as in America.

    The Olympics issue is interesting because the UN condemned Apartheid.. the same UN now also claiming falsely, Israel have the worst record on women's rights in the world... in South Africa a woman is raped every 4 minutes.. domestic violence is rampant. Saudi Arabia have terrible women's rights... there are many other countries with far worse women's rights records... the UN is nothing but a farce and part of the problem the world face today.
     
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    And so I repeat. You sure showed me. lol

    You sure showed me. lol

    That is just your silly opinion vs the entire world. And your opinion as an anonymous poster on this iffy forum means nothing.

    The condemnation of Israel was against their terrible ways against women's rights.... OUTSIDE ... it's own country.
     
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    No... not just mine. Segregation never built schools, hospitals or Universities for blacks, Segregation never gave black people Open heart transplants for R1.

    Apartheid spent far more money on black develpment than the UN... Segregation only separated people... it never ever did anything FOR black people like apartheid

    :lol: what a joke so you can do with a woman what you want as long as it's inside your own borders :roflol: the South Africans and Saudi's will be very happy to hear that. A farce.. something needs to be done about the UN
     
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    Since the inception of liberalism, conversation have grown more and more intellectually stunted because labels are used to smear and silence opposing views.

    Apartheid is the antithesis of multiculturalism, and for this sin it has been tainted and smeared with Segregation's brush
     
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    White people spend far less on educating black people than white people in SA. Black people weren't even allowed to be part of the SA government.

    Doesn't mean a thing when you do not compare it to white South Africans.

    Doesn't mean a thing when you do not compare it to white South Africans.

    So the 10% white people in South Africa earned 70% of all the money and made the black people work for it.


    And you posted this all before. I responded that the wages of black people in SA skyrocketed after the end of Apartheid. As well as crime going down. People having access to electricity and water went up.


    The UN did not say that. It only condemned the Jew state for oppressing women outside their borders.
     
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    Apartheid in SA always was build on the total BS of separate but equal, but it never was equal. White people and white people only judges what to do with the black population. And subsequently the white population deported millions upon millions away from all the places of opportunity. That's the way the white people in SA made sure they had the best education and the best jobs, and subsequently the most money.

    And because of that... apartheid SA was even banned at the olympics.
     
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    You can't bring back what is already flushing down the drain but by all means let us slice open South Africa's cadaver.. pull out the intestines and inspect the lungs, heart, kidneys and liver.

    What was Apartheid;
    The System was named Apartheid by the press the Government called it Separate Development, with the aim of preserving culture and language for all South Africans

    When you think of South Africa during Apartheid you should split what we understand of apartheid into two facets;

    1. Segregation – the discriminate racist system of white privilege left behind by the British
    2. Separate Development – the development for culture and language within a homeland system that gave away 50 % of South Africa’s land to tribes, built hospital, schools, universities and provided funds for healthcare and education.
    Why was Apartheid;
    The number one reason for Apartheid was to prevent genocide, as discussed in this post, Africa to this day continue to experience genocide after genocide. It is a centuries old method of population control and no one have been able to stop it.

    The second reason is to preserve culture and language for minorities.

    The reason given in the press today is to promote white Afrikaner privilege. To provide them with work opportunities and although unlike the ANC the Afrikaner was very good at looking after their own, we know today from the failings of the ANC that there really was no competition, the nomadic communist could not and still cannot compete with the capitalist civilization builder… as proven by the state of South Africa’s economy and government institutions today.

    What went wrong with Apartheid;
    Two things went wrong with Separate Development;

    1. The Apartheid government never dismantled the discriminatory British Segregation laws and
    2. The Apartheid Government allowed South African tribes to move into white territories to find work, as there were plenty of work in white territories (and we will see later why when we look at the white black symbiosis in Africa).
    Once you open your borders and you mix your cultures, Separate Development does not work. The Apartheid government then made a further error in trying to use Segregation laws to enforce Separate Development. But once the border was opened there really wasn’t much they could do except try to deport millions of people or embrace multiculturalism and effectively communism… as the South African blacks are nomads and communists.

    It is important to note that Segregation is racist but the second – the system of Separate Development was not. Separate Development was not based on race but on culture and language and is the antithesis of Multiculturalism as we understand it today.

    The Black/White Symbiosis in Africa
    From the moment the white man set foot in Africa the African were either trying to kill him or seeking his wealth.

    White Europeans and even many white South Africans buy into the white guilt story sold to them by the media, that the White man is oppressing the black man and in doing so stealing his wealth, but the reality is far from it.

    The white South African is a Capitalist Civilization Builder who knows how to create work and wealth and the black South African is a Communist Nomad who does not… and this is obvious from the 25 years ANC rule that left Capitalist South Africa in ruins.

    This “create work and wealth” vs “seek work and wealth” symbiosis is deeply resented by South African Blacks, and especially the ANC who has referred to it as “baasskap” “boss-ship’ direct translation. They have tried very hard to destroy or even reverse it and have brought in over 100 Black Empowerment discriminatory laws to impoverish the white South African and prevent him from earning a living. They failed, because even though they impoverished 25% of white south Africans, the other 75% managed to become even more wealth because they were entrepreneurial capitalists.

    Today the Communist ANC are destroying capitalism, because

    1. They don’t understand Capitalism nor do they know how to build or maintain a civilisation
    2. Destroy Capitalism and you Destroy the White man
    Where is South Africa Headed?
    In 2013 South Africa’s Ambassador to China compared to Nelson Mandela to Mao Zedong and the future will soon teach us this comparison is far more than simply symbolic.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1378209/south-africas-china-ambassador-compares-mandela-mao

    The ANC have completely destroyed all government institutions including the health sector, the last pillar holding the country together is the white dominated private sector, who are also 80% of the tax payers.

    Eskom the power utility has announced it will increase prices by 80% next year to cover its vast debts and the ANC government is basically now simply milking the white cow for whatever is left… since the whites are also the only ones still paying for electricity.

    South Africa is headed for a Marxist Revolution and those white South Africans and other minorities who are not wiped out by the centuries old genocide will be held in concentration camps and most likely die from hunger as South Africa’s farmers are butchered on a daily basis. Welcome to the revolution.

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/apartheid-explained/
     
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    You quoting a blog of a complete idiot.

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    It was based on race. Only white people were allowed to part of the government. That too was based on the color of the skin.
     
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    that's segregation...I wonder what that makes you if you can't even manage something as simple as this
     
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    And that segregation was all the way up into the highest places of the SA government.
     
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    Ok so I've made a very dire prediction... what do you do if you are a South African stuck in South Africa?

    In my humble opinion you try to move towards the western part of South Africa as described in post #9

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-across-south-africa.559195/#post-1070799064

    ... there is a possibility that we will see a North/South Korea scenario... but obviously East/West South Africa
     
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    As long as the Carlton Centre is safe and OK Bazaars still serves the best kudu & kidney then all is well in the RSA.
     
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    Just give the Orange Free State and Natal to the AWB and let the Bantus fight amongst themselves over the rest of the country.
     
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    In this post http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ss-south-africa.559195/page-7#post-1070839080
    I mentioned that "Separate Development" made the mistake of using Segregation laws to enforce Separate Development because the black migrants were allowed into white South African territories. I believe it's important to look at exactly where it all went wrong for the Afrikaner... below is from Apartheid's Pandora's box, describing the stranglehold of Anglo American (the Oppenheimers, mining), Rembrandt (Anton Rupert, liquor and cigarettes) , Trust Bank (Jan Marais), Sanlam (A.D. Wasenaar, insurance), etc on the South African economy, the same people who benefitted most from cheap African labour. The assassination of Doctor Verwoerd is the beginning of the end for capitalist white rule... orchestrated by Capitalist white privilege.


    The hypocrisy of these companies of course are incredible because at 80% stranglehold over the South African economy nobody benefitted more than they did from African labour yet today they hold themselves as the model liberal while butter couldn't melt in their mouth.

    They took their money and left the white population who remain have to deal with the fallout of communist rule
     
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    Ha.. the Zulu king the biggest land owner in South Africa is upset with Ramaphosa, doubt he will give Kwazulu Natal to the AWB... not sure the AWB exists anymore anyway

     
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