Illegals Flooding the Border in Advance of Trump Inauguration

Cool. When another citizen dies from someone who was never supposed to be allowed in the country in the first place, you can tell the family members they're only .003% of the population and don't matter.

Deal?


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Why is it the responsibility of private industry to do the job of the federal government? That approach is so un-American its sort of sad...

 

Nothing pisses me off more than angry illegals on American soil waving their national flags and demanding things of this country.

 

a bad sign if true, last time they left was when Bush destroyed the economy, do they think Trump is gonna do the same?

 

That is the key, and since this would work, if we actually did this, it will not be done. Make a few examples which would require harsher punishments against businessmen, and fine corporations in high enough sums to bankrupt them if they get caught and the carrots would be gone.

Clearly neither party will do their duties, and observe the laws. And yet we vote them back in. Gotta vote them out. For it is their fault these illegals came here and stayed here.

 

weird isnt its like there rooting for there soccer game.

 

Those are, most of them aren't. The local Mexicans are brazen enough to have Hecho en Mexico emblazoned on the back window of their peecup. I was watchin' one scrape it off after Trump's election.

 

Soccer is a different story. If they're American citizens and they want to root for Mexico at a game, I think they're fools. But that doesn't bother me.

It's when they're illegals and they shove their national flag in our faces while demanding benefits ... that's disgusting.

 

its the team cult mindset they cant let go for some reason..

 

It doesn't matter. If a company is knowingly hiring illegals now, they're still breaking the law. That would be akin to, do not cross the border, it's illegal. But if you happen to make it across undetected then welcome to America! Companies still need to be held accountable. And yes, the government would be forced to enforce the law as written. It's a win-win in my book.

 

Repeal the law and force the government to secure our border, as is their Constitutional duty. The whole illegal alien infestation is the government's failure. How these laws against businesses actually passed, much less are Constitutional is beyond me. Its clearly failed government passing the buck to private companies. Its one of the most disgraceful things this country has ever done...

 

It will be far less effective and far more expensive to keep the border free and clear if thousands can continue to spill over and find gainful employment. You have to utilize some form of ID check system that will be run at the employer level through the government.

 

It is already in place. It is called e-verify but is optional. Make it mandatory. I have had to prove my citizen ship for every job I have had in the last 50 years.

 

If the border is actually secure it will be effective in keeping the aliens invaders out. That's what secure means. There is an additional problem that has yet to be mentioned, we have millions of unskilled, uneducated citizens, and businesses would rather hire illegal aliens. We have millions of people we pay not to work, if you really look at the problem with the illegal aliens, its pretty much the all government's fault. Yet everyone would rather make private industries pay for government failures. Sad...

 

True, but we all have a responsibility to make this country work for Americans first. If that means better border security, better job screening and better education, then we all need to have some skin in the game. I like Juan's idea of making e-verify mandatory. I know you don't like the talk of holding companies accountable for who they hire, but this is going to take a multi-pronged approach to stop the border from being flooded with illegals.

 

The Dream Act is NOT a solution, it's a reward for illegal immigration. I refuse to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship in our country. We must have secure borders, in order to have a secure country.

 

I would agree to mandatory e-verify on certain conditions. First the border would need to be secure. Second, deportations of existing illegal aliens would need to be rapidly increased. Third, businesses would get an amnesty for any existing illegals until they are replaced, within 30 days or so...

 

I agree. We need to fix the border first if any other measure is going to amount to a hill of beans.

 

not really say 18 billion at max total. whats that only 4/5% out of the defense budget

 

Sanctuary cities are a no-deport policy.

Refusing to force criminal illegals out of the country because their host nations wont take them back due to the limp-wristed negotiations by our State Department is also an example of a no-deport policy.

Those criminal illegals btw end up being released into America despite being illegal plus being criminals.

Its not that there isn't any deportation occurring at all its just that we are failing in very huge ways to uphold our laws.

 

Your last sentence contradicts you, no deport policy. So does the fact that more people have been deported lately than before with other prez's.
Corporations want the immigrants. The laws are on the books, but we don't fine companies for hiring illegals.

Corporations have a HUGE impact on policy.

What about you open borders claim? Why do we have border patrol?
So were you just blowing right BS smoke with the very pointed claims?

 

Really.

Guess that puts that lie to rest.

 

What's sad is some RWers view of the situation. It's gov'ts fault at the request of corporations. Farmers who need them etc.
Fine the companies who hire illegals, they will not come and some will leave. Simple and cheaper.

 

In my opinion going full out on both sides is what is needed.

E-verify should be mandatory and I have to unfortuantely admit that we had an experience hiring illegals three years back. I feel pretty crappy about it now but at the time wasnt nearly as aware as I am now. There is a Home Depot next to my office in a large commercial and industrial zoned area that always has a dozen or so guys looking for work.

We needed a container unloaded and hired three of them for about 6 hours total. The next day some woman came back yelling at our office manager because the one guy took the money and didnt pay the other two. When our office manager started asking her more questions she got angrier and angrier until she asked to see identification and any other documentation to be taken down to look into. The lady immediately left.

Sad yet kinda funny little story that definiltey taught me a lesson, one which I wish more temp agenies woudl take advantage of. A lot of small businesss that hire illegals do it for speed and to avoid red tape. We have been set up with a temp agency and it is far easier and faster when everything is said and done.

It is far too easy for companies like mine to pick up such employees and I completely agree it is half of the problem.

As to the other 50% we MUST secure the border through whichever action will actually do so. Be that some mix of a cyber wall and an actual concrete wall, a fleet of drone aircraft with fast reaction teams ready, or even a freaking giant replica of the Great wall of China,

I don't care how but it has to be done, it has gotten to the point where more people agree than disagree. I think thee election proved that....

 

Yes, red tape needs to be taken back.

But as for the wall.
Overall 62 percent say no to the wall. Thirty four percent support it. Republicans 63 percent yes to the wall. Thirty three percent oppose. Democrats a whopping 84 percent opposed to the wall. Thirteen percent want it.
http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/04/20/do-americans-want-to-build-border-wall/