Illuminati totally controls orgainzed religion, politics, and the media

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  1. Thundercat

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    However secret a society believes itself to be there are a number of higher ranking Masons who have been happy to spill the beans. Why do you presume that I have to make those discoveries ? I would have thought that common sense. Just because you want to close your eyes, why should others ?
    The priory never existed ? Surely you can do better than that ? There is, if you care to look.
    Outrank elite hey ? You are most certainly not inner circle and if you are then you must be one of those sideline Freemasons, like the Buffalos.
    Weak minded ? For standing up against mumbo jumbo, which has no place in the 20th century ? Fighting against an Archaic Neanderthal influence ?
    No Sir. I am anything but weak willed and shall not cease to proclaim such rituals as Satanic and most unhelpful within any 'so called' democracy, especially among politicians. Religion and Politics do nor mix, since one deals with facts and the other with fiction, dangerous to any society.
    Et In Arcadia Ego.
    I doubt you are a bastard, as you have proved with your very reasonable arguments. I only wish there were more people who can debate like you.
    I may not agree with you, but I respect you.
     
  2. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Such as who? Bill Schnoebelen? Jim Shaw? Neither of these two were "higher ranking Masons."

    Prove they did. What is your source?

    Well, I do belong to a group that only 0.07% of Masons belong to.

    A sideliner is not a word I'd use to describe my time in Freemasonry:

    I am most importantly a Master Mason (the highest degree in Freemasonry; the others are just side orders).

    I'm a Past Master and current Worshipful Master of two Lodges (2009, 2012, and 2014). I have also been asked to serve as Grand Orator of my Grand Lodge.

    I've presided over a Chapter of the Order of the Eastern Star.

    I'm an officer in a Valley of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction of the USA. I'm not very active with the Scottish Rite, but I do help confer a few of the degrees as well as preside over the Remembrance Ceremony that we hold each April.

    I've presided over a Chapter of Royal Arch Masons, Council of Cryptic Masons, and a Commandery of Knights Templar; I also belong to the chair degrees that fall under the York Rite.

    I'm a Grand Officer in the Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of Idaho and the Grand Council of Cryptic Masons of Idaho.

    I'm an officer in the York Rite College, in the Red Cross of Constantine (also on a Committee for United Grand Imperial Council), in the Order of Knight Masons, in the Order of St. Thomas of Acon, and in the Knights of the York Cross of Honor.

    I'm a member of the Royal Order of Scotland, Order of the Sword of Bunker Hill, Grand College of Rites, Masonic Order of Bath, Ye Antient Order of the Corks, and of the Sovereign Grand Master's Council of the Allied Masonic Degrees for the United States of America. Even as a member I still assist with the conferral of the various degrees.​

    I've also been approached about joining the Societas Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatis (SRICF) and the Holy Royal Arch Knights Templar Priests (HRAKTP).

    For being a scapegoat artist.

    Except all you have done is proclaim, but you have not proven; as I've said before, an accusation is not proof in of itself. Post the rituals which you think are "Satanic."

    I don't believe that we should be a theocracy (I don't my religious beliefs overpower my libertarian beliefs), but you can't prevent ones beliefs from influencing their actions, to include their faith (or lack thereof).
     
  3. Mushroom

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    Sure, it is complete crap. But let me concentrate on just one claim, shall we?

    I am looking at a package of Tropical Fruit Skittles right now, do you know what the bar code on it is?

    04016308

    Only a single 6.

    And picking up my DVD of Last Of The Mohicans I turn it over, know what I find the barcode is?

    024543010890

    And what is the bar code on my Battlefield Prayers book??

    9780976501022

    And the barcode on my pack of Pall Mall Ultra Light 100?

    02718529

    And on my bottle of Franziskaner Weissbier?

    088394000326

    And on my Dassani water?

    049000009781

    And my WInCo water?

    070552002012

    So yes, I accept that challenge, and proof that you are full of coprolite.

    And a final one, one of the movies I have that is full of symbolism, and contains more phallic symbols then you can shake a dick at?

    Excalibur, UPC of 085392201822

    All of your "facts" are nothing but nonsense, but that is the most crappiest nonsense of them all.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_code#In_popular_culture
     
  4. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Mushroom, you can't use facts with these kind of people.
     
  5. AlpinLuke

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    Just a quick note ... for historical accuracy and respect to the mentioned Order.

    The Sovereign Knights of Malta what?

    First of all you name the Order in the wrong way, second, since it's a Sovereign Military Order, with international diplomatic activities and a very wide legal representation substantially all around the world, I would be more carefully in collecting information about it before of saying this or that.

    The Order of the Hospitallers of St. John of Jerusalem renamed it as Knights of Malta to become, during the centuries the Sovereign Military Order of Malta [http://www.orderofmalta.int/?lang=en] and to say all, the Order of St. John had houses in Scotland as well [for example at Torpichen, after that King David I invited the Order to Scotland in early XII century].
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Not to mention there is more than one since the Protestant Reformation and then later on other groups took on the name without any affiliation to a church.
     
  7. AlpinLuke

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    To follow the flux of history ... these are the Orders of St. John still remembered [and recognized, I would say] by the father order.
    http://www.orderofmalta.int/history/802/orders-of-st-john/?lang=en

    A curiosity is that the Bailiwick of Brandenburg is made by Protestant Knights.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    So where did the kitty go?
     
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    his meds came in...or your secret ninja swat team found him. :crazy:
     
  10. Mushroom

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    I think what I find most amazing is that in just a week or so, this guy who claims to be intelligent and not prejudiced has hit just about every "Jew hating" thread in PF, and apparently even made some new ones himself.

    He does need medication though, I often wonder how the really damaged people are even able to log into here, let alone onto the Internet.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Nah, he doesn't warrant a hit squad.
     
  12. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Well, you can always hit him in the head with a petrified Idaho Spud. :alcoholic:
     
  13. Katchy

    Katchy New Member Past Donor

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    I couldn't give at all about you paranoid Illuminati freaks, but this card game looks fun as hell! "Eco-Guerrillas "Liberal, Violent, Weird" :roflol: $50 to whoever has a set of cards in fairly decent condition and game instructions.
     
  14. Mushroom

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    Sadly, mine are long gone. But the game is still made.

    Steve Jackson Games, they still make a modern version, and it is available through their website, and other game retailers. And it is a hilarious Beer & Pretzels game, especially since you link one group to work off of another, so it starts to look like a game of dominos. And you can get some obvious ones, like the L4 Society supporting the Trekkies. But then you can have others, like the Flouridators supporting the Semiconscious Liberation Army.

    http://www.sjgames.com/illuminati/
     
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    Katchy New Member Past Donor

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    Thanks Mushroom, will definitely look into it, I'd have a few friends that could get into a humorous card-game. $35 isn't bad for a few Saturday nights of fun.
     
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    My correctness doesn't allow myself to post here a link to the history forum where we discussed the historical "Illuminati". I guess you will well surprised in discovering the reality of that sect.

    Google "Adam Weishaupt" to know something about.

    To add something to this discussion, if this Illuminati were able to get such achievements it's difficult to understand how they were able to beat the competition of other well bigger organizations [in other words: why is not the Red Cross to dominate the world?].
     
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    Which celebrities have acknowledged oaths made to Satan?
     
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    Kirk Cameron and Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

    :)
     
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    I first heard about the Illuminati from those old John Todd talks I first heard in the 80's. There could be some truth to it, but when thundercat on one hand says that only those in the inner of the innermost circles of these 'organizations' know the "truth" and then on the other hand paints all the Jews as being behind all of it, that is the first part of where he loses his 'side' to the argument.

    One of the second parts, IMHO, is when he gives ANY credence to Alex Jones. If there is an Illuminati, Alex Jones certainly would be working for them.
     
  20. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    How could John Todd be a reliable source? He made far fetched claims, such as everybody in the star wars movie series, all belonged to witch brotherhoods, and George Lucas made them do that.

    What makes you think Alex Jones works for the Illuminati?
     
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    I didn't say he was a reliable source, however you must have heard something way different than I did. I do not recall hearing anything about the star wars actors being witches, though he did accuse many others of being so.

    As for Alex Jones, if the Illuminati exists and I were in it, I would use someone to talk about my organization with such a sensationalistic and totally unrealistic fashion that it would be easy to dismiss as only a nutjob would believe it. Enter Alex Jones.
     
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    Brilliant.
     
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    On the other hand, I should confess that when I first heard my John Todd tape, I listened to it several times over. After a while, some of it did seem to make sense to me. But I lived at the time in Lake Elsinore, CA and at the time I had a lot of acquaintances that did profess to be into the occult and witchcraft, and told me that some of what he said could be true as well. Now, this was thirty years ago, but I seem to remember one that was a member of the Freemasons who did say something about Kaballah being a part of at least his belief system. So I did buy whole heartedly into what Todd said. Sure there were things that Todd said and predicted that were wrong by the time I heard his tape, Jimmy Carter was already a 'has been' President, so how could he have been the "Anti-Christ"?

    The symbols? I had seen by that time pentagrams on peoples' garage floors who were self proclaimed witches/warlocks who admitted that was where they did their spells, etc. So that also fueled my "why would Texaco use one as well"? I still look at the Macy's star and think, hmmm. . . But the one that stuck to me in a way was what Todd said about the symbolism on the back of the one dollar bill. That is the only bill who's design hasn't been changed in years. I know you guys are thinking I am a total nutjob by now . . . . I really am not, because, as the years have gone by, I am not totally sold, otherwise I would just live in a cave and/or put on a tinfoil hat and never even try to participate and/or vote. If in fact the "Illuminati" is in that much control, why bother?

    But thirty years later, now it is just a tiny part of me that thinks about all of what I heard that sometimes still makes me go, "hmmm". After all, it doesn't matter who controls a nations' laws, just who controls their money. . . . . . And I think that is what is at the heart of what Todd said.

    But of course, there is infowars.com and Alex Jones, LOL! I already expressed my opine about that doushebag.
     
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    They're not so bad! Most of what you've heard is a lie >_>
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yeh, they only eat SMALL children, (They're more tender)
     

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