Illuminati totally controls orgainzed religion, politics, and the media

Thank you for taking this topic seriously!

What do you think of my answer to a closely related question over on the New World Order forum?

The New World Order

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-new-world-order.259092/page-2#post-1072404067

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-new-world-order.259092/page-2#post-1072404067

 

You Cougarbear...... are in my opinion an aposTate Latter day Saint and your ideas.......
are very different from those of President Russell Nelson...... and the twelve leaders of the LDS church......

Start asking up the ladder of the constitutional monarchial structure of the Latter day Saints and you will find out that I am correct in this...... the highest level Latter day Saints know that they know their destiny is to play a role in creating a massive worldwide church that will be flawed....... it will not be perfect...... but it will assist IN BRINGING IN A MASSIVE HARVEST OF ONE BILLION SOULS OVER THE COMING decade or two or three!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone with a fairly strong "Elijah / John the Baptist" type of calling on their lives......
for one thing could not agree to stay entirely out of politics as the average Latter day Saint does do......
and.... they also could not say that Prophet Joseph Smith fulfilled the entire role of the final Elijah.... who...
might turn out to even be one of the two witnesses of the Book of Revelation.........

Thank you for your comments and questions because you have made it absolutely clear to me that I CANNOT
at this time be baptized by Elders of the Latter day Saints church... .no matter how much I do admire what they are
accomplishing!


In my opinion... President Russell Nelson is closer philosophically to my approach to Latter day Saint cooperation with
Pentecostals are other gifted Christians...... than he is to your approach... even though technically you are LDS and
technically I am not!


"Greater unity between Latter day Saints and Pentecostals ...."


You should listen to this to get some background to what I am saying......





1973 Prophecy - The Vision by David Wilkerson

The Worgl Austria Great Depression Experiment and a real estate boom in rural America?

 

I'm sorry but to suggest with your limited understanding of the Church and of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you are silly in trying to tell me I'm an apostate? LOL! I had a good laugh on that since you aren't even a member with an ounce of understanding of the Church and it's mission. The mission of the Church is simple. Proclaim the gospel, perfect the Saints, redeem the dead, and help the poor and the needy. Elijah's job was to restore the authority to Joseph Smith and the Church to redeem the dead. The Jewish people have been holding a door open on Passover for the return of Elijah for a very long time for this. On April 3rd, 1836, (Passover and Easter) at the Kirtland Temple in Ohio, Elijah appeared and restored the sealing of family keys to the Prophet Joseph Smith. That was Elijah's mission in these the Latter Days. President Nelson will testify to this. So will every Prophet since Joseph Smith as will all 12 Apostles today. I've been an Elder in the Church for 42 years. I've been Elder's Quorum President, High Priest Group Leader, 1st counselor in a Bishopric and many other callings in the Church. I've been a Gospel Doctrine teacher so please don't try to tell me about Doctrine in the Church. Joseph Smith is a type of Elijah, but not THEE Elijah. And, no mystic magician like the people you follow will ever pass as a Prophet, Seer or Revelator of Jesus Christ. They have no Priesthood authority to do so. Today, there are 15 prophets, seers and revelators with power and authority. The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the 12 Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That's it! No one else. As far as the Church, it's perfect. The people in it, not so perfect. The Church has rolled over the entire earth at least once. There's plenty of prophecies in the 4 standard works of the Church to help us recognize the time period we live in. Mystics and soothsayers you follow are not recognized by Christ as His Prophet's, seers and revelators. Their experiences are for them and for them only. To pass themselves off as ministers of Christ is simply a continuance of apostasy from the Meridian of Time. They will not get you closer to the Celestial Kingdom. They and your pride will continue to keep you away from returning to Father in Heaven in the Resurrection. And, it could damn you to Perdition. Wake up and smell the roses. You are being duped and I call you to repentance.

 

Frankly.... I did intend this along the line of "foolish jesting" and the very fact that you had a good laugh..... means that you passed one of the many, many, many, many tests that I toss in the directions of everybody that I interact with.

One of the many things that I am attempting to do is prevent myself from the heartache.... and headache that I experienced when I separated from the Worldwide Church of God and from the Philadelphia Church of God back in 1991...... (and now to read your second sentence)!

I have noticed that my Latter day Saint friends do tend to have good senses of humour... and they do tend to catch onto my jokes...... but my jokes have an edge to them....... I cannot imagine as of today, January 26, 2021....... ever being capable of stating that I have concluded the Prophet Joseph Smith........ finished all aspects of the role of the final Elijah..... the Book of Ecclesiasticus..... is NOT a Roman Catholic book ultimately.......... for all that I know it may well go back all the way to the time of King Solomon...... or very close to that time period...... after all.............. how much writing did King Solomon and his contemporaries do??????

Ecc 12:12

And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.


... and now on to sentence number two and hopefully three.......

 

Fascinating..... thank you for these interesting details........
for the record... I consider myself to be something of an "aposTate" former member of the Worldwide Church of God.........
and the Philadelphia Church of God led by Pastor General Gerald Flurry..... but I am so glad to
have been free to church hop for these last thirty years and to be able to hang around with the teachers that you
don't seem to have much respect for.................
that is your choice........

I ALSO CANNOT IMAGINE MYSELF ever agreeing to stay out of politics.... just because of a church policy........

I cannot do that!!!!!


I will NOT do it just to attempt to join myself to an army....... I already know that my mom was partly descended from the Tribe of Dan.... through County Tipperary in Ireland........

.... we Danites know that we are never really alone.... even if it looks that way on the surface.......... in four dimensional space - time appearances... that are quite deceptive.......


www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/




A critic of mine could even state that aposTate Dennis Tate............"worships a god of forces??!!"


Dan 11:38

But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

 

You remind me of many women who have a bad experience being married and refuse to get married again. Even if they find a man who isn't like the one that abused them. They just can't give their experiences to Christ and His atonement. They can talk about Christ. They can do many things in Christ but never fully commit themselves to Him and his forgiving atonement. You keep going back to a false Church and the experience you had there and it continues to damn you from moving forward and receiving the Priesthood authority to bless your family to its fullness. That was 30 years ago. Let it go! Give it to Christ and move forward instead of sideward toward false prophets, mystics and soothsayers.
Here's some scriptures that speak of Trump:

• in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, 1 Cor. 15:52.
• voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God, 1 Thes. 4:16.
• when the second trump shall sound, Mosiah 26:25.
• might … speak with the trump of God, Alma 29:1.
• all men shall be awakened … when the trump shall sound, Morm. 9:13.
• declare my gospel as with the voice of a trump, D&C 24:12 (36:1).
• trump shall sound … they shall come forth, D&C 29:13.
• Michael … shall sound his trump, D&C 29:26.
• lift up your voices as with the sound of a trump, D&C 33:2 (42:6).
• I called upon you … by the great sound of a trump, D&C 43:25.
• before the arm of the Lord shall fall, an angel shall sound his trump, D&C 45:45.
• angels shall fly through the midst of heaven … sounding the trump, D&C 88:92 (88:99–110).
• when the trump shall sound for the dead, we shall be caught up, D&C 109:75.

 

Truly well said...... I can tell from how you write that you Sir......
you pray and you do sincerely ask for WISDOM.... and you have been given Wisdom!


One of the questions on my mind is....... will the Latter day Saints be a massive part of the Super Church predicted by Pastor David Wilkerson..... or will Pentecostals and Charismatic Catholics be the bulk of it?????????

Here is a part of my own personal testimony that I suspect could actually lead one or more of the eight thousand five hundred wealthiest of the wealthy..... and / or some of their one million to ten to ten million to sixteen million or more "Illuminati" and / or their most influential employees....... to sincerely repent and become either Latter day Saint and / or Charismatic or Pentecostal....... or some other branch of Christianity that either has wisdom or faith or knowledge..... or love.... or hopefully.... all of those fruits of the Holy Spirit or even more...........

It was either late in 1990 or early in 1991.... or late in 1991 or early in 1992.......
I was close to suicide but for the strangest reason you have ever heard tell of in your life........
(and it seems as if you may be a couple of years older even than me)..........

I wanted to go to hell..... find "Azazel".... whoever Azazel was.... he is mentioned in Leviticus chapter sixteen verse ten.... and also in The Book of Enoch but I didn't read the Book of Enoch until several years later.......

all that I knew was that HaShem / YHWH... was indeed "afflicted in all of our afflictions"..... so i thought that if i could go to hell.... and convince Azazel to take my place in heaven........
this could DIVIDE THE KINGDOM OF SATAN..... and cause it to fall...........

... I soon had a really, really, really strange experience.......
it might have been an "open vision".... but I don't even know what open visions really are fully........
but a being..... who looked like The proverbial "Pan".. appeared to me...... and asked me........

"What doest though here Elijah"".......... I looked to the right and saw darkness....... I looked left and saw darkness..... though for a minute ..... clued that Pan or the guy who looked like Pan meant meant me......... so I took the bulled out of the 30.30.......
and staggered out of my prayer closet........ in something of a state of awe............

My testimony is so strange that I could bring PERSECUTION on any group that I would term myself a "MEMBER" OF............. so there is something of a weight on me that you may not fully understand........

... but thank you for showing courage and zeal and going through OPEN DOORS..... because the time may come when you find out Sir....... THAT YOU actually played an important role in leading several "Illuminati" to genuine and sincere repentance............. and the time will come...... when you... like me........ will not be too worried whether or not they were to choose to be LDS..... or any other major improvement over where they are at this moment!!!??

 

More information on all this here toward the bottom of page one... and toward the top of page two......

I am referring to the parts of the correspondence that I asked if I could publish publicly..... and I got permission... from Rabbi Yeshayahu Julius Hollander who is now a retired Orthodox Jewish Sanhedrin Rabbi living in Israel..........


Should L.D.S. support rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple?

 

Thanks for sharing some personal experiences. We know you aren't Elijah. You know it. So what could this mean to you? It simply means that you are to assist in the spreading of the word of God before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Many people have similar experiences and attempt to do it all on their own instead of going to the next step asking the True God what he/she should do and where to find out how he/can fulfill his destiny (not predestination). You are seeking for this information and have found several potential directions to fulfill what you believe is your purpose. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is one of your choices. Now, Heavenly Father wants you to choose. Eternal life with him and your family or less. He's given you and many the methods to find this answer in James and Moroni. The simple answer is, "Ask Him." With real intent, faith not wavering and without a double mind. And you will get your answer." Until then, you will be tossed to and fro with every wind and doctrine. I assume that with the type of experience you had you are looking for your answers by the same manner, in a vision of others who are not prophets, seers and revelators for the world. But, have personal experiences that they need to work out to find God's path to the Tree of Life.

I'm aware that not all good people will rise to the level of accepting the authority of the Priesthood in Christ's only Church that has His authority to administer His holy ordinances for the Celestial Kingdom such as Baptism, Gift of the Holy Ghost, Sealings in the Temple of Families through the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood after the order of the Son of God. And, I recognize that those churches that teach of Christ and good things will receive their rewards for their good acts of fellowship. A good friend of mine who died 4 years ago didn't remember 20 years of his life due to alcohol and drug dependency. He was assisted out of that hell by a local church in town that worked with those at the dependency level. He was able to clean up. He had a teenage daughter at that point that his mother was her guardian. He grew stronger in staying sober. But, he also knew he had to gain friends and be with others who would shed the ways of the streets. He met the Missionaries from our Church in town. They began to teach him. He came to Church one Sunday and he said it was like a vision, he knew this is where he had to be. The truth lied here and he could remain sober with our fellowship and his work and effort to bless others as well. He remained faithful for years before his death at age 58. I have peace knowing he is in Paradise working with the spirits in prison in a missionary capacity awaiting his exaltation to the Celestial Kingdom. It's time for your ascension for preparation to do the same. You've gone as far as you can helping others. You can't take them any further without taking the next step into Baptism by one who has proper authority. It will require personal sacrifice. But the blessings you will receive and your family will be worth it.

As far as trying to take down Satan's kingdom, we can't. Trying only entraps us more into his traps. Satan simply wants to stop as many of God's children who have physical bodies from being resurrected into Celestial bodies for the Celestial Glory Kingdom (mansion). He just has to tempt us and distract us with gobbledigoop stuff to succeed. We become stagnant when that happens sliding backwards thinking we are doing good but gaining nothing and not becoming the leaders of God's Christian warriors. The way we win the battle of good and evil is by moving forward ourselves and then lead others. But, not half way. It will be Father in Heaven and His Son, Jesus Christ who will take down Satan's evil in this world and bind him first for a thousand years and then after a season where he's loosed again, forever in Perdition. D&C76.

As far as a "Super Church?" There is no "Super Church." The Book of Mormon speaks of a great and abominable church. And, also the Church of God. We have had a couple of Apostles write about the Catholic Church being that great and abominable church. But, really, the great and abominable church is all people and organizations that fight against good and Christ's Church. Will the Catholic Church or any other church be part of the great and abominable church? Maybe. Maybe not. There are a lot of great people in the world that will never have the opportunity you have to become a member of Christ's only Church that has the only true Gospel of Jesus Christ. They will side with Christ's Church when Armageddon comes before the time of the 2nd coming happens. Whose on the Lord's side who?

 

By these statements about the word "TRump" do you mean that there is some sort of special calling on President Trump?

Do you personally think..... or do you know of other Latter day Saint teachers who would take the connection to Isaiah chapter forty five rather seriously?


By the way..... my apologies for using the word "aposTate"..... even in jest....... but I have often wondered to what degree this word and pun may apply to me personally.............. because I hardly recognize myself from back in 1989 when I was still a member in good standing of The Worldwide Church of God??!!

I do feel though the Worldwide Church of God made the error of being too critical of Latter day Saints and Pentecostals and Charismatic Catholics and Baptists and other Christians............. and our somewhat exaggerated accusations of errors against other Christians................................. were a serious problem that played a role in the Worldwide Church being scattered in a thousand directions........ many former WWCG members would probably become Latter day Saints........ once they would be shown that we were in error on the Soul Sleep Theory...... and that LDS teachings on the state of the dead are kind of brilliant..... and obviously truly accurate and wise.



https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org...apter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng


Chapter 41

The Postmortal Spirit World

I feel that many people who would term themselves "Illuminati" consider themselves to be HOPELESS.... and chapter forty one of Gospel Principles could hold the key to them turning their lives around........... dramatically?!

 

Not sure what Chapter 45 has to do with Trump. The Trump thing is just a play on words to be funny. The scriptures say sometimes "We are all in one accord." I would say that when I was driving around in my Honda Accord that this was prophecy. There are several of Isaiah chapters in the Book of Mormon. We take Isaiah seriously. Chpater 29 for sure.
As far as being called an apostate and what to do, I was called an apostate by my brother when I converted from Judaism to the Church. But, I had a testimony by then and sticks and stones weren't going to break me. When you call upon the Father in the Name of the Son, and you are a Jew, and you receive your answer in a vision, you have nothing to worry about being called names. Since then, I've been called many other names by Christians as well. It's been 30 years and you have to let it go.

 

A flawed human leader who does not know the Creator very well but............. that same leader is guided to do certain things...... and making Jerusalem the place where the USA Embassy is now located was an important beginning.


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/45?lang=eng



CHAPTER 45

Cyrus will free the captives of Israel from Babylon—Come unto Jehovah (Christ) and be saved—To Him every knee will bow and every tongue will take an oath.

1 Thus saith the Lord to his aanointed, to bCyrus, whose right hand I have cholden, to dsubdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the etwo leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2 I will go before thee, and make the acrooked places straight: I will bbreak in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

3 And I will give thee the atreasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy bname, am the cGod of Israel.

4 For Jacob my aservant’s sake, and Israel mine belect, I have even ccalled thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5 ¶ aI am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

 

Cougarbear.......... I believe now very firmly that YOU were led by Jesus to politicalforum and to this discussion......
partly because you are a Latter day Saint with lots of Jewish blood running in their veins.......

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is NOW setting up a massive Prison Ministry for all the members of the Illuminati who will, in my opinion, shortly be indicted...... some of them will be going to Guantanamo on the island of Cuba.......

Something really amazing is going to happen in the Spring of 2021......... but I may well be just as shocked as you are by what happens?????????

Prediction .... Bill Gates is going to repent.... and his repentance will have some similarities to how the repentance of
the Apostle Paul led to most of the church breathing a massive sigh of relief!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another prediction..... Jesus wants Latter day Saints and Pentecostals like Pastor Hank Kunneman and Evangelist John Ramirez and near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai..... and the gifted Rick Joyner to COOPERATE MUCH MUCH MORE..... when it comes to the outreach that Jesus has in mind to all the "Illuminati" who are about to be indicted...........

Two President, dealt with by Spring and CANCER DEFEATED within two years.

http://forsuchatimeasthis-aseekerof...5/prophecy-lord-gave-brother-kim-clement.html

Also Jesus has a very, very, very serious role planned for "Mantle of Darius" Mr. Mitt Romney.... in spite of all of his many, many flaws and errors......


The White Horse President prophecy and saving the USA constitution and dollar.


If you were to do a search for "Mitt Romney" on politicalforum by poster "DennisTate" you would actually find that quite a bit would come up.......... some of all that may soon become rather important.......

also... if you were to go to "Third Hour" "Forum for Latter day Saints" you would find that DennisTate writes a lot on their
"Jewish Beliefs Forum."

 

Not sure what Chapter 45 has to do with Trump. The Trump thing is just a play on words to be funny. The scriptures say sometimes "We are all in one accord." I would say that when I was driving around in my Honda Accord that this was prophecy. There are several of Isaiah chapters in the Book of Mormon. We take Isaiah seriously. Chpater 29 for sure.
As far as being called an apostate and what to do, I was called an apostate by my brother when I converted from Judaism to the Church. But, I had a testimony by then and sticks and stones weren't going to break me. When you call upon the Father in the Name of the Son, and you are a Jew, and you receive your answer in a vision, you have nothing to worry about being called names. Since then, I've been called many other names by Christians as well. It's been 30 years and you have to let it go.

So, the prophecy was given in 2008. All the great things mentioned were to have come forward in two years from that date. Didn't happen. False Prophet.

 

No... two years from the time that America would have two Presidents..... which is NOW!!!!!!





The Battle Strategies Of A Warrior - Kevin Zadai and Ex Warlock John Ramirez - Episode 1 -

Whatever you do.... don't listen to part two of this...... you are not ready for this.......



The Battle Strategies Of A Warrior - Kevin Zadai and Ex Warlock John Ramirez - Episode 2

 

I don't see two presidents. I see Joe Biden as a creep who became president. Who is the other president? And, when the spring passes on without 2 presidents and a cure for cancer, will you then be properly baptized?

 

I often make my mind up at the last moment... but as of today.... January twenty eighth, twenty twenty one...... I have no immediate plans of being baptized as LDS and joining the LDS or any other specific church for that matter.......... I like my freedom to use near death experience accounts to attempt to bring people a little closer to God.... I don't see myself limiting myself to the Book of Mormon..... even though I have to admit that it is impressive......

I actually am more likely to see if I can work with a synagogue through the Noahide Movement if and when we move to near Toronto???? I can listen to lecture after lecture by near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava and I see zero errors...... none........ I only know a few other Christians who might be able to do that.... so I feel I must do something with that fact......

I do thank you though for attempting to make me feel welcomed...... but I do hear the Holy Spirit some.....and I feel that I know what I am supposed to do for the next months or year or two......

 

An online friend of mine on Facebook named Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz......
talked about Christians..... perhaps . inspiring Atheistically inclined Jews..... or Jews who are Agnostics...... or Jews who are New Age or Buddhist....
to become observant Orthodox Jews........ or observant Chassidic Jews ....... this is an open door to Israel... and all the Jewish diaspora in all the world.... . that is altogether different than what any other major denomination of Christianity is doing that I know of..... but I could do this..... I actually could................ and one of these days President Russell Nelson or one of the other leading Apostles of the LDS.... might just ask you to help me out........ because unlike you... I was not raised Jewish..... so it is all new to me.............

You might even want to send this link to your ward President or even higher up than that........ because this really could ring a bell..... especially at Brigham Young University in Israel......

 

Spring is coming quickly! Are you ready for baptism when your mystic's prophecies don't come true?

 

I actually got baptized by immersion in 1979 when I was twenty, and received the laying on of hands to receive the Holy Spirit and I know that I was given it even back then. My life did certainly change after that.

I was rebaptized again by an offshoot of the Worldwide Church of God in the mid 1990's and then again by a powerfully led Pentecostal pastor a few years ago.

I will be attending the LDS ward and fellowshipping with Latter day Saints but I take my wife to her church every time she wants to go and I am truly impressed with the working of the Holy Spirit that I have seen there as well.

 

Are we going to have to go over "Authority" again? A chimp can lay hands on you. It can even dunk you into a pool of water. Doesn't mean you were baptized.

 

Authority is not all in one place... but I am glad to know that there are sixteen million Latter day Saints and fifty thousand LDS missionaries even during 2020 the COVID year...... that is wonderful to know and to have heard them praying and seeking guidance from Messian Yeshua - Jesus daily..... and even hourly.....


1Kings 19:18
Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him."

 

This series of questions may help you to understand my approach. My job is to assist Latter day Saints to connect with Pentecostals and with Jews and with others... .and I may be far more effective at doing that while NOT technically being an LDS myself.

Does Multiverse Theory fit with Ezekiel 37 and the White Throne Judgment?



https://www.facebook.com/groups/701402507088113/permalink/845087172719645/

Here is why I think that many questions relevant to Latter day Saints may have been answered by visions or dreams that were given to gifted people in other churches.

Is the following statement true and does this fit with Latter day Saint doctrines? I believe that it does and I think that this idea helps to clarify questions that were not made plain and simple and clear in the first century Christian Bible.

John 16:25

¶
These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."

Quote
Rick Joyner, The Final Quest and The Call.....

 

Oh, absolutely it's in one place. It's with Heavenly Father and in His Son, Jesus Christ. They choose who can have the authority to baptize and all ordinances. They chose Joseph Smith in our last days and for him to lay hands on to those who are worthy to receive the Authority of the Priesthood of God. It has and always has been done by the laying on of hands by one who has been given authority to do so. If not, you have all sorts of baptisms done improperly and not understood. And, most important, not accepted by Heavenly Father.

 

God revealed his power to Joseph Smith and gave him the authority of the Priesthood after the order of the Son of God. And, through the Prophet, others were conferred the Priesthood of Melchizedek and Aaron (Levitical) to authorize others in Zion. Not Rich Joyner.