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    That's nice of you but we don't need help. That isn't our mission. Our mission is to preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's up to each individual to accept it or reject it when it's placed before you. When you reject the authority of this, then you reject Christ. "But Lord, I did all these wonderful things in your behalf...The Lord's response, I never knew you..." It's all about the authority you have to do what you do. That's the connection. Did you have the right to usurp the Lord's order to do his ordinations?
     
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    I am truly thankful that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has promised to judge each of us and has NOT delegated that power to any of his many, many, many metaphorical brides..... somewhat like his great, great, great... grandfather King Solomon.

    I would be curious to hear what you think of this message that I find to be profoundly encouraging information?

    "ANOTHER WEEK WITH MEL K , DAVID RODRIGUEZ & CHARLIE WARD"

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/iK2u...jZjk7xVFpaDMZUYXPeTTeFEOkDCVKIQVWMi5EQ-66n3m4

    Dr. Charlie Ward and his guests do a great job of explaining how this is being orchestrated perfectly to lessen civil disobedience when President Trump comes back... likely March or April.

     
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    That is exactly what the Worldwide Church of God taught as well but now I know that Jesus was giving far more power and wisdom to many Pentecostal pastors and missionary women than he was giving to any of the supposedly exalted leaders in the WWCG.

    What Pastor Rick Joyner was taught about the truth of Sealing in Families through GRACE..... is similar to what you LDS teach.... but I like the simplified version of it because if my wife has a great relationship with Jesus she cannot get me into heaven by her righteousness. I have to work out my own salvation...... and no church has the authority to get me into heaven either!

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

     
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    But.... we are still human and we can still make some terrible errors no matter who prays for us and how powerfully they pray.


    I am most disappointed with Mr. Mitt Romney because a prophecy is out there that he has some sort of "Mantle of Darius" but............ Darius fought against Cyrus for some time before he repented.... so in a way I guess this fits with the historical Paradigm.... as Rabbi Jonathan Cahn explains from so many different angles.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...6eS1dnqhh2LFsQA7YebJAAd4eth7zkupcy0S9NVpznizE



    The White Horse President prophecy and saving the USA constitution and dollar.

    Ms. Edie Reno:




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    How concerned are Latter day Saints about the theme of getting innocent victims of the CCP out of the Reeducation Camps into the many White Elephant Cities that China has already built?





    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/time-to-punish-ccp.584079/page-5#post-1072421909

    Time to punish CCP?





     
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    How sad to see a post show such lack of reason and susceptibility to crazy conspiracy theories.

    God Bless you.

    Peace
     
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    Does this link work for you?

    Can you see the prison repentance testimony of LDS Mr. Steven Collingsworth?

    https://www.facebook.com/Find.Him.Always/posts/250445043306884
     
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    Exactly!!!!!!!


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    You ain't seen nothin' yet!!!!!!!


    Hey B.T.O. did a song by that title........ back in the '70's!




    Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...off-in-one-year.580877/page-5#post-1072436847



    @Cougarbear
    @Robert


    www.michaeljlindell.com/
     
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    When we read the account of of 1Peter chapter 3, these souls did not receive the teachings of Noah. They just existed in the days of Noah. People who have not the opportunity to hear the Gospel will be those who may receive exaltations based on God's judgment of what they would have done with the same opportunity you have meeting with the Missionaries and accepting the authority they carry to officially baptize. Will those who had opportunity still be preached to? I think so. But, their judgment won't be the same.

    I do know that the concept of death bed repentance won't hold much weight either. Catholics believe in it. I don't. Then, they also have a different understanding of what Perdition is and what Hell is. In my opinion, it's hogwash. This is our testing ground.
     
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    I feel that there is a strange calling on my life.....
    and I have to go with that calling no matter how dangerous it is......
    my very strong feeling at this time is that my getting baptized LDS would slow me down...... and make me less effective at what I feel is my calling in life from Jesus.

    For example... just take a look at the results of this poll so far.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...start-an-online-outreach-to-satanists.517921/
    I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....


    ?
    Can demons be given hope?

    1. No... the demons have zero hope!
      3 vote(s)
      33.3%
    2. *
      Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"
      5 vote(s)
      55.6%

    3. I am not sure but I will research this further.
      1 vote(s)
      11.1%
    Change Your Vote
     
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    Here is a really wild conspiracy theory for you.......
    I am of the belief that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan..... secretly ADMIRED Prophet Kim Clement........
    and felt somewhat privileged to play the role of the REAPER.... in the scene of sending Kim Clemnt off to be
    with his ancestors... and with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and with The Holy Spirit and with the Ancient of Days the Father.....




    Carry The Vision Kim Clement Tribute

    I am not certain if this is the one where Bob Jones was warned by Satan that he would kill him..... because of the power of the message that Bob Jones was giving..... My point... is that sending Bob Jones off to meet with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus was one of the biggest favours ever done for Pastor Bob Jones and for the entire Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, the Church.




    Matthew 10:34

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

    Yes... after the four minute mark in the video to the seven minute mark in the video..... he recounts how a Devil warned him that he would kill him.
     
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    You have began a quite popular and active topic and I am hoping that you may wish to get back into this discussion.......
    you may find this idea rather interesting.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...h-to-satanists.517921/page-16#post-1072445140

    I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....




     
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    You are blaming Jesus Christ for slowing you down? No, you are the only one doing that by getting off the path to the Tree of Life. The mist of darkness is getting you to worry about Satan rather than helping those who are ready to harvest for the Lord Jesus Christ. I think you are fearful of the mocking from the Great and Spacious Building. You will do much greater work to help the Children of God by teaching them how to defend against the firery darts of Satan as a Priesthood holder in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
     
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    No..... I am blaming the mentality of one of his metaphorical brides..... one of the ten metaphorical virgins.... and the tendency for ORGANIZATIONS to behave in certain ways......... but the jealousy within harems does come to mind.... that is true!

    Your ideas on your narrow path...... and what I have been shown about my own narrow path.... .are two totally different things. I was told in 2015 I had a "Mantle of Cyrus" and now nearly six years later I understand what that means a little better and by joining any one particular church I would become less effective at assisting 127 or more churches to come together more and cooperate more........ I have to become as much a part of the Noahide Movement as I can..... but I will only be able to make it out to the local LDS wards occasionally....... that is just my reality.... I usually take my wife to whatever church she wants to go to and she chooses in a brilliant and inspired manner......

    Actually.... it is the degree to which Satan manages to manifest within humans..... who love their organizations a little too much sometimes that concerns me........ We all do it.... our favourite church becomes like a mother to us ....... it is a natural thing for any of us to do......

    If you were to listen to The Torch and the Sword by Rick Joyner you would find many similarities to chapter forty one of Gospel Principles but...... it would be silly for me to expect you to actually listen to something that was not written by a Latter day Saint.....


    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414468745


    ★★★ THE TORCH AND THE SWORD ★★★ —BY RICK JOYNER & MORNINGSTAR PUBLICATIONS— {NARRATED}



    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org...apter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

    Chapter 41

    The Postmortal Spirit World


     
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    I personally see zero contradiction between chapter forty one of Gospel Principles with the following testimony by

    Mary K. Baxter:
    .... but I am guessing that YOU COUGARBEAR will be entirely unable to reconcile what to you will appear to be false teachings that to you will contradict what Mary K. Baxter wrote!


    I am truly glad to have met you through this forum but you have given me the impression that you have a low level of respect for non Latter day Saints if they are given some sort of powerful warning for all of the rest of us!


    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org...apter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

    Chapter 41

    The Postmortal Spirit World

    I believe that chapter forty one of Gospel Principles is brilliant and accurate but...... it does not contradict or rule out what Mary K. Baxter wrote!
     
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    I really don't know what your purpose was. Hell is not the final place of those who deny the Gospel that is preached to them in the world or in spirit prison. As long as they do not deny the Holy Ghost, their final destination is the lowest kingdom of glory, Telestial Kingdom. Where Christ will not be present. But, that is true about the Terrestrial Glory as well. No Christ. So, even if the woman ends up there, the story is accurate. She had all the opportunities in life and wasn't valiant in her testimony. Neither are you. You are basically telling Christ you know better than Him.

    I have no problem with people of other faiths who aren't sliding backwards. But, that's not you. You are ducking the truth like a boxer trying to escape Ali's punches. And, I'm warning you that you have had the same chance as that woman. Something that most people of faith don't have.
     
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    Here is one of my several issues with my being baptized LDS.....
    I really like this article and I think that it could play a huge role in some sort of agreement or even a "Treaty" of sorts between the sixteen million LDS community and the nation of Israel..... but...... technically this article was written by somebody who is not fully in fellowship with the Ladder day Saints?????

    So.... if I became a full fledged LDS..... would I have to stop quoting this guy??????


    http://cjccf.org/multiple-mortal-probations/

    MULTIPLE MORTAL PROBATIONS




    I am used to being relatively alone..... and I am NOT desperate to join a group of sixteen million although I do admit that there would be many advantages to my doing so!


    As you know I have another discussion going on a related topic to this over here:


    Reincarnation of Cain and Abel as Moses and Jethro?



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-of-cain-and-abel-as-moses-and-jethro.584920/


    Assisting in brokering some sort of agreement or even a treaty between Latter day Saints with the nation of Israel is a far bigger question than my own personal "exaltation".... whatever that means?!

    This topic is on an LDS discussion forum:

    Proposal for LDS Noahide Movement on Saturdays at many wards.
     
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    What Mormon teaches that after death, there is no soul? We teach that after death, our spirit (soul) goes to spirit prison (Paradise or Hell). We await our judgment and resurrection. I have no idea what this dude thinks about our teachings. These two supposedly women are either liars or someone is spewing statements from them that are lies. But, he is completely wrong. So, stop quoting him and be baptized.
     
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    Although I basically like the Book of Mormon and I am truly impressed what LDS teach on the State of the Dead, ( which largely came from the Book of Mormon), .... I cannot make the statement that the Book of Mormon is my favourite book on spirituality of the last two centuries.

    I quote near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm a lot more, (probably a thousand percent more), than I quote chapter forty one of Gospel Principles or any other LDS literature, (so far). I know that I know that somebody who does not love the Book of Mormon a lot more than I do cannot be baptized LDS. I took twenty online courses by a near death experiencer in 2020 because I considered it a better use of my time in comparison to any other book that I could have those those hundreds of hours into.

    Howard Storm wrote in such a way that the prophecies about the millennium or Era of Moshiach in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets were made amazingly clear.

    https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/howard-storm.html#a04

    Over the past few weeks though I did watch or listen to quite a few of these videos......

    Actually it was the books of Nephi and Alma and Moshiah that I listened to.....

     
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    Reincarnation denies the entire purpose of the atonement of Jesus Christ. Those who believe that spirits and gods can repeatedly inhabit a variety of physical forms do not take into account Christ’s mission and the purpose of the Atonement. For a person who believes in reincarnation, Christ would be but one manifestation of a temporarily embodied savior—one of many possible incarnations. To accept this premise would be to repudiate the most fundamental teaching of the gospel—that there was a single, unique act of redemption made by the Lord Jesus Christ. By denying the ultimate importance of the Atonement and of Christ’s mercy and love, those who believe in reincarnation fail to see the Savior in his rightful position as King of Kings and Lord of Lords—the only name given whereby we can be saved. (See D&C 18:23.) Though reincarnation is an interesting theory that may have a few similarities with the gospel, it denies the absolute centrality of the Atonement and must be rejected as false.
     
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    I've been on a very different page when it comes to this topic since around 1993.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ination-for-nobel-prize-in-literature.542590/

    Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?

    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html


    Is Gilgul Ne'shamot (reincarnation) true?
     
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    The Orthodox and Chassidic Jewish communities have teachings on the Gilgul Cycle that can fit perfectly with the LDS teachings on the Afterlife State as well as on the eventually resurrected and glorified state for Christians as well as for the prophets of the time period of the Jewish scriptures.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...h-to-satanists.517921/page-16#post-1072455187


     
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    What they don't have is the authority to perform the ordinances that will be asked of you by the Godhead when you reach the pearly gates.
    1. "Were you baptized by one with my authority, the Aaronic Priesthood authority?"
    2. "Were you given the "gift" of the Holy Ghost by one with my authority, the Melchizedek Priesthood Authority?"
    3. "Were you sealed to your eternal wife of the opposite sex in my Temple by one with the authority to do so?"
    4. "Have you kept your testimony valiant after receiving all mine exaltation and eternal life ordinances?"
    5. "Did you get distracted by those who have some vision of my universe and took on themselves without my authority to teach and perform false ordinances?"
     
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    But Cougarbear.......... who do you think is in the most danger in the sight of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.....
    DennisTate who has never been baptized by LDS elders.......
    or Mr. Mitt Romney who was actually elected POTUS back in 2012......
    in the sight of G-d who sees through all human acts of fraud and stealing votes.......
    so........ he received The Mantle of Darius........

    and isn't it interesting how the historical Darius fought against the Cyrus type of his time period for many years before he repented......


    I don't know this for certain but I have reason to believe that Ms. Edie Reno is a genuine LDS Prophetess......
    and I found this writing by her back in 2012.........

    The White Horse President prophecy and saving the USA constitution and dollar.


    Ms. Edie Reno:


    https://www.facebook.com/groups/116616272938/permalink/10151114008777939/
    Prophetic Company (Facebook group)











    The White Horse President prophecy and saving the USA constitution and dollar.


    https://conservativehill.com/blogs/news/mitt-romney-is-so-weak

     
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