I'm claiming refugee status

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't count because that isn't what happened. This kid was not being removed from his mother. He was being returned to his father. If you want to find unethical and immoral acts by the Clintons, let's face it, it doesn't exactly take a lot of digging (*cough* tarmac meeting *cough*). And you can have legitimate ethical arguments about whether or not he should have been returned to his father, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the family separation going on now. Not in the least.
     
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    So all welfare has officially ended. That is some big news. Why hasn't it been covered?
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Wow, an introduction thread that has turned into a food fight. Yippee.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When parents are placed into custody they are separated from their children, end of story.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the problem is the ones that hire most of their labor overseas

    the tax cuts should of ONLY been for corps that do not outsource American Jobs
     
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    And that's what Trump did.
     
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    Outsourcing isn't always bad. I do see your point though. We semi-agree.
     
  8. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you everyone for the welcome.. I feel just like the character Steve Martin played in "The Jerk" when he found his name in the phonebook!

    And lookie!! I've gotten 9 messages, 6 likes and 3 trophy points already!!
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    trump did no such things, Trump gave the huge tax cuts to the rich corps that sent jobs overseas, he did not care
     
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    Wrong again, tax cuts where given to corporations who returned jobs and investments back into the U.S. as an incentive to do so.

    That's a fact and you can believe and narrative you wish but that doesn't make is so or factual.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any citation for that?
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tax Cuts: They said it wouldn't happen, but it did: The money companies stashed overseas to protect them from high U.S. corporate tax rates is flooding back in, boosting growth, jobs and confidence in the economy. Thank the Trump tax cuts.

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/overseas-profits-return/
     
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    Well, most of the hard workers in these orgs are in Mexico and China now, aren't they?
     
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    wrong again, the Trump huge tax cuts for the Corps had no strings attached, corporations that outsource Americans Jobs still get them
     
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    the child had been kidnapped and the federal officer was taking him to his father where he belonged
     
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    If that pic isn't staged, I'm an effing Dutchman!
     
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    Makes no difference to the child with a machine gun pointed toward him, it's still very traumatic.

    Second of all your rewriting of history leaves out the fact his mother Elisabeth was trying to flee the Cuban regime and had Elian with her, he was not kidnapped.

    She drowned in route to the U.S. and INS turned Elian over to his paternal relative's in Miami who petitioned for his asylum.

    Castro demanded the child be sent back to Cuba and Clinton and his AG Janet Reno capitulated to the Communist Cuban government.
     
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    Nope, if they do they lose a part of their tax cuts and their products when brought back in will be tariffed.

    When you get sometime off from Trump hating, try doing some basic tax break homework.
     
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    That picture was not staged, I was in the same room shooting video.
     
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    no they do not, there is no strings attached to the Trump tax cut for the corps

    if there was, you would link to them....
     
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    ok, you got me, I thought you were being serious
     
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    What does that mean?
     
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    Traumatic because his mother put his life in jeopardy - had the kidnappers returned the child to the court this would not have happened. True, his mother left Cuba but she did not have the family's permission to kidnap the child. It was she who committed the crime of kidnapping - she drowned because, as right wing Christians know, God punishes those who violate the law.
     
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    Do you seriously expect me to believe that any soldier would point a loaded automatic firearm at a child if he saw you standing there video'ing it? :rolleyes: I'm not the smartest kid on the block but wasn't born yesterday ffs!
     
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    was a sad case, but the father had custody after mom died, nothing could be done
     
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