Image of the Messiah in a picture from space

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  1. Aryeh B.

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    https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9537266,36.3784291,187737m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

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    This is the map of the future of Israel according to the prophecy of Ezekiel. Israel is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

    This video shows how the borders of Israel are defined in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. (In this video, verses are read from the book of Ezekiel 48: 9,10,13,15,18 and 20, as well as verses from the 47th and 48th chapter, where land plots of the tribes of Israel are listed.)

     
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    Some friends of mine found some other fascinating images in the earth......
    mostly of animals or eagles or things like that though.....



    Oops... it looks like they changed their website address.... This may be it:


     
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    Some also see Jesus on toast.
     
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    I love it when people can see an image of The Virgin Mary in their cheese sandwich too.
     
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    So if this is really Jesus then are you not allowed to bite into it ?!
     
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    There will be a huge migration from Israel to Syria,
    Palestinians and Israelites walking hand in hand.
     
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    The toast image looks more like Jaba the Hutt than Jesus to me.
     
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    Oh look! The human brain has evolved to recognize familiar shapes in abstract patterns!
     
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    I prefer sardines on toast.
     
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    How do you know what Jesus looked like? Are you one of the disciples re-incarnated?
     
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    Well he did say he'd return? [​IMG] Oh wait a minute, that was Gen. MacArthur wasn't it! As you were!!
     
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    I thought there was a whole thing about the eating of him.
     
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    That's a different allegory.

    The Catholic Church takes that allegory more seriously than the Protestants do of course.
     
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    Either way it’s almost as obscene as a father torturing his own son on the cross.
     
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    By the time Jesus made it onto the cross he had purposely offended a whole host of local ecclesiastical leadership.

    Sort of like Galileo did later on when he discovered Jupiter and its moons with his telescope.
     
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    There is no such thing as Israel. Israel is the English speaking man's way of referring to something they do not know about. There is also no such thing as 'Jews'. Jews also are the English speaking man's way of referring to something they don't know about. And so with no such things as Israel or Jews, there really is no such thing as Isaac either or even (J)esus. (J)oshua would be much more 'real' than 'Jew'.

    So when the myth followers say that (J)esus is actually Z(esus), they might be alot more correct than those that say (J)esus is (J)ewish.


    But go and try to figure this out...

    Why do the 'Jews' in 'Israel' call themselves 'Jews' and call 'Israel', 'Israel'?


    The answer(s) can be found in Scripture. Within the time(s) of the Babylonian Captivity when Y'srael was abandoned. To this 'abandonment', 'immigration' from outside places began to fill within to which homes and families began multiplying. And it were to these 'homes and families' that (J)esus was sent; to those which were 'under' the law but not of the 'law' to free them which were being bound 'by the law' by those scholars and teachers of the 'law'.

    Sons of Y'srael? Were the teachers and scholars of the Law during the times of (J)esus of the tribes of Y'srael or were they of the 'homes and families' of those that immigrated in during the Babylonian Captivity?


    How was the Apostle Paul Turkish, of Tarsus of Cilicia, yet a Hebrew of Hebrews, a Pharisee of Pharisees?

    Tarsus of Cilicia is in Turkey. And yet at the same time lived before the Holy Qur'an was given to the Arabic speakers.


    I did read, however, that ancient Turkey did not speak Arabic but rather a Syriac language. So I'm not sure... Syriac languages uses the Cyrillic alphabet, such as Cilicia is written Cilicia and Cyrillic is written Cyrillic. Russian is an example of the Cyrillic alphabet.



    “It is currently used exclusively or as one of several alphabets for more than 50 languages, notably Belarusian, Bulgarian, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Montenegrin (spoken in Montenegro; also called Serbian), Russian, Serbian, Tajik, Turkmen, Ukrainian, and Uzbek.” Brittanica via Google. I know that Tajik is NOT a Slavic language, it is essentially Persian/Farsi but spelled with different letters. Turkmen is a Turkic language (not Slavic) and so are Kyrgyz and Uzbek. Recently (since 1992) there has been a trend towards writing Uzbek in Latin script but I think both Cyrillic and Latin are used. 100 years ago I think all of these non-Slavic languages were written using the Arabic script.

    https://www.quora.com/What-modern-l...llic-alphabet-Which-ones-are-Slavic-languages


    The Ukrainian alphabet
    А аБ бВ вà 㥠ґД дЕ еЄ єЖ жЗ зИ иІ іЇ їЙ йК кЛ лМ мН нО оП пР рС сТ тУ уФ фХ хЦ цЧ чШ шЩ щЬ ьЮ юЯ я


    The Rusyn alphabet
    А а Б б В в Г г Ґ ґ Д д Е е Є є Ё ё* Ж ж З з
    И и І і* Ы ы* Ї ї Й й К к Л л М м Н н О о П п
    Р р С с Т т У у Ф ф Х х Ц ц Ч ч Ш ш Щ щ Ѣ ѣ*
    Ю ю Я я Ь ь Ъ ъ

    The Bulgarian alphabet
    А аБ бВ вГ гД дЕ еЖ жЗ зИ иЙ йК кЛ лМ мН нО оП пР рС сТ тУ уФ фХ хЦ цЧ чШ шЩ щЪ ъЬ ьЮ юЯ я

    The Serbian alphabet
    А аБ бВ вГ гД дЂ ђЕ еЖ жЗ зИ иЈ јК кЛ лЉ љМ мН нЊ њО оП пР рС сТ тЋ ћУ уФ фХ хЦ цЧ чЏ џШ ш

    The Macedonian alphabet
    А а Б б В в Г г Д д Ѓ ѓ Е е Ж ж З з Ѕ ѕ И и
    Ј ј К к Л л Љ љ М м Н н Њ њ О о П п Р р С с
    Т т Ќ ќ У у Ф ф Х х Ц ц Ч ч Џ џ Ш ш

    The Russian alphabe
    tА аБ бВ вГ гД дЕ еЁ ёЖ жЗ зИ иЙ йК кЛ лМ мН нО оП пР рС сТ тУ уФ фХ хЦ цЧ чШ шЩ щЪ ъЫ ыЬ ьЭ эЮ юЯ я


    However, the Cyrillic alphabet:
    Numerous Cyrillic alphabets are based on the Cyrillic script. The early Cyrillic alphabet was developed in the First Bulgarian Empire during the 9th century AD at the Preslav Literary School by the disciples of the Byzantine theologians Cyril and Methodius.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabets



    So what did Turkey and Bulgaria and Serbia and Ukraine speak prior to the 9th century? Most probably not all Arabic... But some kind of Syriac language?



    The Syriac alphabet is a writing system primarily used to write the Syriac language since the 1st century AD.[1] It is one of the Semitic abjads descending from the Aramaic alphabet through the Palmyrene alphabet,[2] and it shares similarities with the Phoenician, Hebrew, Arabic and the traditional Mongolian scripts.

    Syriac is written from right to left in horizontal lines. It is a cursive script where most, but not all, letters connect within a word. Spaces separate individual words.

    Besides Syriac, the alphabet has been used to write other languages. When Arabic began to be the dominant spoken language in the Fertile Crescent after the Islamic conquest, texts were often written in Arabic with the Syriac script as knowledge of the Arabic alphabet was not yet widespread. Such writings are usually called Karshuni or Garshuni (ܓܪܫܘܢܝ). Garshuni is often used today in Neo-Aramaic writing, such as letters and fliers. Malayalam was also written with Syriac script and was called Suriyani Malayalam.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_alphabet



    Aramaic[2] (Arāmāyā; square script אַרָמָיָא, Classical Syriac: ܐܪܡܝܐ‎) is a language or group of languages belonging to the Semitic subfamily of the Afroasiatic language family. More specifically, it is part of the Northwest Semitic group, which also includes the Canaanite languages such as Hebrew and Phoenician. The Aramaic alphabet was widely adopted for other languages and is ancestral to the Hebrew, Syriac and Arabic alphabets. During its approximately 3,100 years of written history,[3] Aramaic has served variously as a language of administration of empires and as a language of divine worship, religious study and as the spoken tongue of a number of Semitic peoples from the Near East.

    Historically, Aramaic was the language of the Arameans, a Semitic-speaking people of the region around between the northern Levant and the northern Euphrates valley. By around 1000 BCE, the Arameans had a string of kingdoms in what is now part of western Syria. Aramaic rose to prominence under the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–605 BCE), under whose influence Aramaic became a prestige language, and its use spread throughout most of Mesopotamia and the Levant. At its height, variants of Aramaic were spoken all over in what is today Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Palestine, Kuwait, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia, and to a lesser extent parts of southeast and south central Turkey, and parts of northwest Iran.[4] Aramaic was the language of Jesus,[5][6][7] who spoke the Galilean dialect during his public ministry, as well as the language of large sections of the biblical books of Daniel and Ezra, and also one of the languages of the Talmud.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_language



    So they were probably using a form of the Aramaic language.
     
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    Who were the Arameans?

    The Arameans, or Aramaeans (Aramaic: ܐܪ̈ܡܝܐ‎, ʼaramáyé), were an ancient Northwest Semitic Aramaic-speaking tribal confederation who emerged from the region known as Aram (in present-day Syria) in the Late Bronze Age (11th to 8th centuries BC). They established a patchwork of independent Aramaic kingdoms in the Levant and seized large tracts of Mesopotamia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arameans


    Aram is a region mentioned in the Bible located in present-day central Syria, including where the city of Aleppo now stands. At its height, Aram stretched from the Lebanon mountains eastward across the Euphrates, including parts of the Khabur River valley in northwestern Mesopotamia on the border of Assyria. The region was known as The Land of the Amurru during the Akkadian Empire (2335-2154 BC), Neo-Sumerian Empire (2112-2004 BC) and Old Assyrian Empire (2025-1750 BC) in reference to its largely Amorite inhabitants. During the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911-605 BC), Neo-Babylonian Empire (612-539 BC) and Achaemenid Empire (539-332 BC) Aram was known as Eber-Nari.

    Judeo-Christian tradition claims the name is derived from the biblical Aram, son of Shem, a grandson of Noah in the Bible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aram_(region)


    Aram (Hebrew: אֲרָם‬ Aram) is a son of Shem, according to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 of the Hebrew Bible, and the father of Uz, Hul, Gether and Mash or Meshech.[1] The Book of Chronicles lists Aram, Uz, Hul, Gether, and Meshech as descendants of Shem, although without stating explicitly that Aram is the father of the other four.[2]

    Aram is usually regarded as being the eponymous ancestor of the Aramaean people of Northern Mesopotamia and Syria.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aram,_son_of_Shem


    Iram of the Pillars (Arabic: إرَم ذات العماد‎, Iram dhāt al-ʿimād), also called "Aram", "Irum", "Irem", "Erum", or the "City of the tent poles," is a lost city, region or tribe mentioned in the Qur'an.


    The Qur'an, revealed in the 7th century CE according to Islamic belief, mentions Iram in connection with ‘imad (Arabic: عماد‎, pillars) [Qur'an: The Dawn 89:7]:[2]

    The Quran, chapter 89 (Al-Fajr), verse 6 to 14:

    6: Have you not considered how your Lord dealt with ‘Aad -

    7: [With] Iram – who had lofty pillars, 8: The likes of whom had never been created in the lands 9: And [with] Thamud, who carved out the rocks in the valley? 10: And [with] Pharaoh, owner of the stakes? – 11: [All of] whom oppressed within the lands 12: And increased therein the corruption. 13: So your Lord poured upon them a scourge of punishment.

    14: Indeed, your Lord is in observation.

    — translated by

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iram_of_the_Pillars


    The Book of Aṟam, in full Aṟattuppāl (Tamil: அறத்துப்பால், literally, “division of virtue”), also known as the Book of Virtue or Book One in translated versions, is the first of the three books or parts of the Kural literature, a didactic work authored by the ancient Indian philosopher Valluvar. Written in High Tamildistich form, it has 38 chapters each containing 10 kurals or couplets, making a total of 380 couplets, all dealing with the fundamental virtues of an individual. Aṟam, the Tamil term that loosely corresponds to the English term 'virtue', correlates with the first of the four ancient Indian values of dharma, artha, kama and moksha. The Book of Aṟam exclusively deals with virtues independent of the surroundings, including the vital principles of non-violence, vegetarianism/veganism, veracity, and righteousness.[1][2]

    The Book of Aṟam is the most important and the most fundamental book of the Kural.[3] This is revealed in the very order of the book within the Kural literature. The public life of a person as described by the Book of Poruḷ and the love life of a person as described by the Book of Inbam are presented to him or her only after the person secures his or her inner, moral growth described by the Book of Aṟam. In other words, only a morally and spiritually ripe person, who is considered cultured and civilized as dictated by the Book of Aṟam, is fit to enter public or political life, and the subsequent life of love.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aram_(Kural_book)
     
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    So where is this image of the Messiah from space?
     
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    As far as English is concerned:

    English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca.[4][5] Named after the Angles, one of the Germanic tribes that migrated to the area of Britain that would later take their name, England, both names ultimately deriving from the Anglia peninsula in the Baltic Sea. It is closely related to the Frisian languages, but its vocabulary has been significantly influenced by other Germanic languages, particularly Norse (a North Germanic language), as well as by Latin and French.[6]

    English has developed over the course of more than 1,400 years. The earliest forms of English, a set of Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Great Britain by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 5th century, are called Old English. Middle English began in the late 11th century with the Norman conquest of England and was a period in which the language was influenced by French.[7] Early Modern English began in the late 15th century with the introduction of the printing press to London, the printing of the King James Bible and the start of the Great Vowel Shift.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language



    The Angles (Latin: Angli) were one of the main Germanic peoples who settled in Great Britain in the post-Roman period. They founded several of the kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon England, and their name is the root of the name England. The name comes from Anglia, a peninsula located on the Baltic shore of what is now Schleswig-Holstein.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angles



    'England' in French = 'Angle'terre or 'land of the Angles'.

    Anglo - Angle

    Anglo is a prefix indicating a relation to the Angles, England, the English people or the English language, such as in the term Anglo-Saxon language. It is often used alone, somewhat loosely, to refer to people of British Isles descent in the Americas, New Zealand, South Africa and Australia. It is also used, both in English-speaking and non-English-speaking countries, to refer to Anglophone people of other European origins.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo


    The Saxons (Latin: Saxones, German: Sachsen, Old English: Seaxe, Old Saxon: Sahson, Low German: Sassen, Dutch: Saksen) were a Germanic people whose name was given in the early Middle Ages to a large country (Old Saxony, Latin: Saxonia) near the North Sea coast of what is now Germany.[1] Earlier, in the late Roman Empire, the name was used to refer to Germanic inhabitants of what is now England, and also as a word something like the later "Viking", as a term for raiders and pirates.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons


    Vikings (Old English: wicing—"pirate",[1] Danish and Bokmål: vikinger; Swedish and Nynorsk: vikingar; Icelandic: víkingar, from Old Norse) were Norse seafarers, mainly speaking the Old Norse language, who during the late 8th to late 11th centuries, raided and traded from their Northern European homelands across wide areas of Europe, and explored westwards to Iceland, Greenland, and Vinland.[2][3][4] The term is also commonly extended in modern English and other vernaculars to the inhabitants of Norse home communities during what has become known as the Viking Age. This period of Nordic military, mercantile and demographic expansion constitutes an important element in the early medieval history of Scandinavia, Estonia, the British Isles, France, Kievan Rus' and Sicily.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings



    However, not German it seems although:


    The Norsemen were a group of Germanic people who inhabited Scandinavia and spoke what is now called the Old Norse language between c. 800 and 1300 AD. The language belongs to the North Germanic branch of the Indo-European languages and is the predecessor of the modern Germanic languages of Scandinavia. In the late eighth century Norsemen embarked on a massive expansion in all directions. This was the start of the Viking Age.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsemen




    The Germanic languages are a branch of the Indo-European language family spoken natively by a population of about 515 million people[nb 1] mainly in Europe, North America, Oceania, and Southern Africa.

    The SIL Ethnologue lists 48 different living Germanic languages, 41 of which belong to the Western branch and six to the Northern branch;

    The main North Germanic languages are Danish, Faroese, Icelandic, Norwegian and Swedish, which have a combined total of about 20 million speakers.

    The East Germanic branch included Gothic, Burgundian, and Vandalic, all of which are now extinct. The last to die off was Crimean Gothic, spoken until the late 18th century in some isolated areas of Crimea.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages


    Crimea (or the Tauric Peninsula, as it was called from antiquity until the early modern period) has historically been at the boundary between the classical world and the Pontic–Caspian steppe. Its southern fringe was colonised by the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Byzantine Empire, the Crimean Goths, the Genoese and the Ottoman Empire, while at the same time its interior was occupied by a changing cast of invading steppe nomads and empires, such as the Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Goths, Alans, Bulgars, Huns, Khazars, Kipchaks, Mongols and the Golden Horde. Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century.

    In 1783, Crimea became a part of the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea



    Which would probably put the Germanic languages coming from the same Aramean family as Russia might have come from; since both Russian and Turkey used the same parent language; Aramean.

    (not definite but definitely a real definite possibility).


    Which would put these languages and countries in the line of Shem and not of Japheth. Seeing that Aram was a son of Shem.
     
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    Slavs are the largest ethno-linguistic group in Europe.[2][3] Present-day Slavic people are classified into East Slavs (chiefly Belarusians, Russians, Rusyns, and Ukrainians), West Slavs (chiefly Czechs, Kashubs, Moravians, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks and Sorbs), and South Slavs (chiefly Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes)

    The reconstructed autonym *Slověninъ is usually considered a derivation from slovo ("word"), originally denoting "people who speak (the same language)," i. e. people who understand each other, in contrast to the Slavic word denoting German people, namely *němьcь, meaning "silent, mute people" (from Slavic *němъ "mute, mumbling"). The word slovo ("word") and the related slava ("glory, fame") and slukh ("hearing") originate from the Proto-Indo-European root *ḱlew- ("be spoken of, glory"), cognate with Ancient Greek κλέος (kléos "fame"), as in the name Pericles, Latin clueo ("be called"), and English loud.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs


    John1:19-23 "And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias."

    Isaiah 40:3 "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God."



    Slavs are the largest ethno-linguistic group in Europe.[2][3] Present-day Slavic people are classified into East Slavs (chiefly Belarusians, Russians, Rusyns, and Ukrainians), West Slavs (chiefly Czechs, Kashubs, Moravians, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks and Sorbs), and South Slavs (chiefly Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes)


    The term Scandinavia in local usage covers the three kingdoms of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia


    The Nordic countries or the Nordics[1] are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where they are most commonly known as Norden (literally "the North").[2] The term includes Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden, as well as Greenland and the Faroe Islands—which are both part of the Kingdom of Denmark—and the Åland Islands and Svalbard—archipelagos belonging to Finland and Norway respectively.[3] Scandinavians, who comprise over three quarters of the region's population, are the largest group, followed by Finns, who comprise the majority in Finland; other groups are indigenous minorities such as the Greenlandic Inuit and the Sami people, and recent immigrants and their descendants. The native languages are Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese, all North Germanic languages rooted in Old Norse. Native non-Germanic languages are Finnish, Greenlandic and several Sami languages.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries



    Maybe Russian and German coming from Aramean is a wrong/false/incorrect statement.


    Which would mean that if Russia was of Aramean lineage, it would have Russia being in the line of Shem and the Scandinavian and Nordic languages being in the line of Japheth, possibly, which the Germanic languages are part of (?)?


    Now if the general public can be given this information, the world might actually begin understanding that all 'wrongful' things are not condemnable by a loving God but condemnable by loving 'family' members.

    Which would get us into Romans chapter 13.

    Romans 13:1-7 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour."



    For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


    There is no 'power' that is not of God: the 'powers' that 'be/is/are' are ordained of God.


    Parents are also these 'powers'. Sometimes though, parents are alone and need assistance from others to keep the wrong doing children 'in correct lines'.


    And that's where 'righteous judgement' or 'right judgement' comes in. A person must know the difference between a 'righteous judgement' and a 'unrighteous/false/wrongful judgement'.


    And so, with right judgement, I judge that Israel does not exist except for the English speakers. As far as those that speak Hebrew, Israel does not exist, per se. Is this a false judgement? Or is this a true judgement?


    ایران

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    'alef - zir - 'alef - nun


    ilaf - zher - ilaf - nun ?


    a is for apple or is apple pronounced ipple?

    الله

    'alef - lam- lam - 'alef - he
     
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    الله

    'alef - lam - lam - 'alef - he

    A - l - l - a - h

    pronounced Allah not Illah as in (I)ran.

    ایران

    'alef - zir - 'alef - nun

    ابراهیم

    'alef - Abraham

    ادریس Edris
    ایراف IrAf
    افرند afrand


    e,i,a

    consonants and vowels

    Seven letters (و, ژ, ز, ر, ذ, د, ا) do not connect to a following letter, unlike the rest of the letters of the alphabet. The seven letters have the same form in isolated and initial position and a second form in medial and final position. For example, when the letter ا alef is at the beginning of a word such as اینجا injâ ("here"), the same form is used as in an isolated alef.


    Persian script has adopted a subset of Arabic diacritics: zebar /æ/ (fatḥah in Arabic), zir /e/ (kasrah in Arabic), and pish /o/ or /o/ (ḍammah in Arabic, pronounced zamme in Western Persian), tanwīn e nasb /æn/ and shadda (gemination). Other Arabic diacritics may be seen in Arabic loanwords.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet



    Persian (/ˈpɜːrʒən, -ʃən/), also known by its endonym Farsi[9][10] (فارسی fārsi [fɒːɾˈsiː] ([​IMG] listen)), is one of the Western Iranian languages within the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European language family. It is primarily spoken in Iran, Afghanistan (officially known as Dari since 1958 ),[11] and Tajikistan (officially known as Tajiki since the Soviet era)[12], Uzbekistan[13][14][15][14][15][16] and some other regions which historically were Persianate societies and considered part of Greater Iran. It is written right to left in the Persian alphabet, a modified variant of the Arabic script, which itself evolved from the Aramaic alphabet.


    With a long history of literature in the form of Middle Persian before Islam, Persian was the first language in the Muslim world to break through Arabic's monopoly on writing, and the writing of poetry in Persian was established as a court tradition in many eastern courts.[24] Some of the famous works of Persian literature are the Shahnameh of Ferdowsi, the works of Rumi, the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, the Panj Ganj of Nizami Ganjavi, the Divān of Hafez and the two miscellanea of prose and verse by Saadi Shirazi, the Gulistan and the Bustan.

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    Modern Keyboard Persian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language#History


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    Akkadian Cuneiform

    These also have resemblances to Chinese and Kanji characters. ​

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    Sumerian Cuneiform
     
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    Story of Harut and Marut
    The angels were astonished at the acts of disobedience committed by the human beings on earth, claiming they would do better than them. Therefore, God challenged the angels to choose two representatives among them, who would descend to earth and be endowed with bodily desires. During their stay on earth, they fell in love with a woman named Zohra (often identified with Venus). She told them she would become intimate with them if they joined her in idolatry. The angels refused and remained pious. Later they met her again and the woman this time stated she would become intimate with them if they drank alcohol. The angels thought that alcohol could not cause great harm and therefore, they accepted the condition. After they were drunk, they became intimate with her and after noticing a witness, they killed him. On the next day, Harut and Marut regretted their deeds but could not ascend to heaven anymore due to their sins, their link to the angels was broken. Thereupon, God asked them, either their punishment shall be in this world or in the hereafter. They chose to be punished on earth and therefore were sent to Babel, teaching humans magic but not without warning them that they were just a temptation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harut_and_Marut


    Abdullah Yusuf Ali, noted translator of the Qur'an into English, asserts that the source of this story may be the Jewish Midrash:

    Among the Jewish traditions in the Midrash was a story of two angels who asked Allah's permission to come down to earth but succumbed to temptation, and were hung up by their feet at Babylon for punishment. Such stories about sinning angels who were cast down to punishment were believed in by the early Christians, also (see II Peter 2:4, and Epistle of Jude, verse 6).[8]

    Other scholars argue, that the Midrash actually adapted the story from Muslims,[9] but the names were changed to Azael and Shemyaza, terms for fallen angels in other earlier Jewish scriptures, however regarded as unauthentic by Rabbinic Judaism.


    According to this person, (J)ews have traditions written in the M(i)drash and are known as (J)ew(i)sh in Rabb(i)n(i)cal (J)uda(i)sm.
     
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    what.jpg

    This is also a miraculous image. Can you explain what is shown here?
     
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    He was his son, so he tortured himself.
    I use the male pronouns, loosely.
     

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