Imagine if Obama did these things

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    • The President has spent 310 days at Trump-branded properties, roughly a third of his time in office, and 237-days at Trump-branded golf properties.

      Remember how trump bashed Obama for playing golf?

    • The Washington Post has logged 13,435 false or misleading claims as of a week ago. The total went significantly higher just today.
    Of course to his base it is fake news

    • The turnover rate of the most senior people around him: 80%, according to Brookings, and the highest rate of Cabinet turnover in the modern history of the presidency.

    • The last White House press briefing was 7 months ago. A former staple of American life and media coverage, just gone.
     
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    Yea....Its sicking!.....All I remind people of is remember that BJ!....How low has the GOP sunk?
     
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    Not as low as Adam Schiff's 'Kangaroo Court!', or his continuous lies to the American people!
     
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    This^
     
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    Whom, whomp................Its the new GOP reelect Trump 2020 slogen!.....Has a nice ring to it...Well better than Trump in jail before 2020!
     
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    Schiff says committees will eventually make impeachment inquiry transcripts public
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...e-impeachment-inquiry-transcripts-public-when

    "Schiff wrote that in each deposition, he has made an opening statement and allowed a Republican lawmaker to do the same. Counsels for and members of both parties have questioned witnesses and both parties were given equal representation and time, he wrote.

    "It is necessary to point this out, because the President and his allies have made the false claim that GOP members and staff have been precluded from attending or asking questions — nothing could be further from the truth," the letter said."
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    He goes on to say witness depositions are taking place behind closed doors due to concerns over the coordination of witness testimony. Also, he will release the transcripts to the public at a time that it will not jeopardize investigative equities, subject to any necessary redactions for classified or sensitive information.

    Does it really surprise anyone that the Repubs complaining about the process of gathering depositions are lying about how it is being done? That they are wasting time with an effort to censure Schiff as part of their Kabuki theater routine. That they are Trump toadies towing the line for the Liar-in-Chief. That they very much want to change the conversation from the illegal/unethical behavior of the admin. to...............anything.
     
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    ANDREW NAPOLITANO: ...the White House lawyers, "You can't issue a subpoena until there's a vote." Well, the Republicans changed the rules when John Boehner was Speaker of the House, allowing each individual committee to issue subpoenas, without a House-wide vote. So those subpoenas are valid, and people who resist them, ignore them, put them in a drawer, do so at their peril. If you get a subpoena that asks for something that you don't think you should have to produce, you have to challenge the subpoena, you can't ignore it.
     
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    I don’t understand. You see Trump admit what he has and you call them lies. You hear his own people saying what Trump did and you call them lies. I just don’t understand the mentality of people whose very democracy is being questioned want it to go away. I guess to you or consensual blow job is much more serious than our very democracy. No wonder Trump loves his base. Why is there anymore of the kangaroo court then it was under Nixon or Clinton? Can you imagine if one of them said I refuse to speak because I don’t like the way you’re treating me which is just what this moron in the White House is doing
     
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    So, now you believe what the Russians publish?
     
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    What did Trump do?
     
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    I know exactly what would be happening the democrats would ignore every outrage even as they continue to do today. Please note My only problem with Obama's golfing was that he didn't do it enough gien the crap he did when he wasn't golfing I would have preferred that he played thirty-six holds a day and take the leftist Justices at scotus' with when he I It would have been far less damaging to the country than what he and they actually did.
     
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    President Trump tweets instead of holding press conferences which doesn't allow CNN to have Democrat operatives idiots asking stupid questions.

     
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    ...the left would turn the other cheek and still love Obama and still vote for Obama.
     
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    You mean the Clinton impeachment? Yes let's remember how low the DEMs sunk perjury, subornation of perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court and a federal grand jury did not warrant impeachment or removal from office. You DO remember that right?
     
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    Trump tweets every day, all day.

    And he answers reporter's questions all the time...

     
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    You better go look in a mirror.....Good thing there was no collusion hea?...another pathetic response!
     
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    And y'all will be fine with the next Democrat president doing the same things trump has done, yes?
     
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    This is a no brainer

    President Obama would have been impeached and convicted.
     
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    So long as Trump keeps on furthering conservative causes and the economy remains strong, the average Trump supporter will not care about Trump’s hyperbole and hypocrisy.
     
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    Just imagine if President Obama were have issued an unlawful order to U.S. Marines in Yemen to stand down from their post and surrender their weapons by destroying their weapons and abandoning Yemen...just imagine !

    Actually that's exactly what Obama did.

    Now just imagine if President Trump were have issued an unlawful order for Army Special Forces to surrender their weapons by destroying them and abandoning the enemy of my enemy who became my friend until that enemy has been defeated.

    Iraqi Kurds = Good Kurds
    Syrian Kurds = Bad Kurds
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend until that friendship is no longer needed

    Nazi Germany = Bad Nazi Germany
    Soviet Union = Bad Soviets
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
     
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    oh my god! The fact that you have to ask is mind blowing....
     
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    I don't get it either. The even more astounding thing is that these people think that trump is making their life better. That he is their champion. As if someone who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth in a NY city ultra wealthy family could relate to the farmer in the Midwest. I bet that Trump has never set foot on a farm, and he never will.
     
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    This makes me laugh because if they could have impeached and convicted Obama you can bet your ass the Republicans would have done so. They
    What is so sad is he is screwing them and they are saying thank you
     
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    Perjury trap, process crime.....

    Mind you I think what Bill did was wrong. However, if Trump would testify, he couldn't last 2 minutes without lying to congress. That's why he never will testify.
     
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