I don't understand this. I wish I did. How do we forfeit our rights by being against folks coming across the border to work for businesses who are illegally hiring them and enticing them with wages higher than they can get at home, housing they will provide for them, and transportation to and from work and stores as needed? I'm not against them coming here legally and working toward citizenship. That's not my issue with them. What rights do citizens forfeit and how is that done?
I'm very sorry this happened. This country is ill and getting worse. Most folks do not understand what is going on and I'm having difficulty, too. I want so badly to understand and find a solution. I am not happy with my country. It is broken.
Here is the first thing we do wrong and think wrong about: We expect that everyone who crosses our border to become a citizen. Then we wonder how we got to be the minority at the polls. Next, we forfeited our Rights by passing laws that, on the surface, gave a pretext for the elimination of so-called "illegal" immigration, but are designed to dismantle the Constitution. While there are many, the two most egregious was the National ID / REAL ID Act and the Constitution Free Zone. In my mind the National ID / REAL ID Act was one that set constitutionalists back at least fifty years. The National ID /REAL ID Act requires that all Americans have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... oooops, "Social Security Number." PRIOR to that the tax protesters had all but won the fight to eliminate the income tax and get rid of the IRS. Our organization here was so strong that several people had figured out how to rescind their SSN and avoid the income tax altogether. It was becoming so effective that my own Congressman introduced legislation to counter it and get rid of the income tax and the IRS rather than to take a chance that our methods would incite a war between the government and the citizenry. His proposed legislation was called the Fair Tax. The Fair Tax was the most researched legislation in American history and the rallies drew crowds in the thousands. But, the anti-immigrant lobby pushed hard for National ID, which, in turn, gave a pretext for keeping the SSN intact... which derailed the effort to end the unconstitutional income tax. And now the government can follow you around from the womb to the tomb because all of your financial transactions are tied to the SSN - which means the illegally ratified income tax won't be going away. BTW, the income tax is a plank from the Communist Manifesto. The Constitution Free Zone wherein the Constitution is now null and void within 100 miles of the border is the catalyst for challenging the entire Bill of Rights. Oddly, the anti immigrant position of today was the DEMOCRATS talking points, while mine were the talking points of right wing organizations like the John Birch Society. After immigration, the two sides changed their positions. FWIW, citizen militias were beginning to do something about the border before the anti-immigrant forces screwed that up AND weakened your private property Rights - another aspect we can examine if you want some more paragraphs to go with this. Here are some links you might enjoy along these lines: It's an investment of your time, but eye opening
Mr. Murphy, I fought very hard from about 1979 into the early 2000s. People in their 40s, 50s and beyond who were involved in those years worried about a coming NEW WORLD ORDER / One World Government. Now, people claim that is all conspiracy nonsense... now it's all but been completed! But, take a look at the foreigners who post every day on this board alone. People with no connection to our country want us to adopt their ways. And our people listen to their lame solutions. America is the only country I know of with a guaranteed Bill of Rights AND an acknowledgment of unalienable Rights. It is because of our foundational principles that we became the greatest nation in the annals of history. And, if you look carefully, the Bill of Rights is not ten separate laws; it is ONE bill. So, if you weaken one, the others follow. If you can vote out the Second Amendment on the basis of a popularity contest, then you can do so with the other nine Amendments. And, on the world scene, the rest of the world is jealous of the United States. Otherwise, their citizenry would not be here, trying to tell us how to run this country. With respect to immigration, we have a problem. Then we have a bigger problem. Those who are going to flood this thread with irrelevant material got their solutions from National Socialists. And, just as our board troll will never allow me to present an alternative to gun control, our newest troll be wearing out Internet acronyms like SMH, lol, etc. and NEVER be able to focus on the big picture. Just so you know, before the media gave those guys the attention they did (and still allow them an exemption from exposure for who they really are), citizen militias were on the job and doing something about immigration. Those who hate me so much took the wrong solution and I promise you when this goes to the United States Supreme Court, these people will lose. Their strategies are not sound and I've only told you about two of the worst things they've already accomplished.
No we don't expect everybody that crosses our borders to become citizens. There are numerous visas that are work related only and are very restrictive in changing status. Nothing is dismantling the Constitution, the Constitution Free Zone has been in place since the 1950's and Eisenhower. All it does is allow officers of the Border Patrol to place checkpoints and ask a few non-invasive questions. You living in Georgia, within 100 miles from your coast line, I'll bet you have never been stopped by a BP Officer in a checkpoint, I'll also bet you have never had your 4th Amendment search and seizure rights violated. All the National ID did was force states to make the Drivers License unforgeable. A SS number is not a mandated requirement, yet it is needed in only certain situations. Tax Protestors hadn't won anything, they lost every single court case they were involved in, which is why the movement is no longer around. There would be no war incited between tax protestors and the government. The Fair Tax idea never made it out of Congressional Committee. The Fair Tax was not the most researched legislation in American history, it was proposed by American for Fair Taxation and was based on hired, so-called, "tax experts" to identify what they perceived as faults with the current tax system. Claiming the tax system was illegally ratified now? First the 14th and now the 16th? Do you just do this to things that you don't really like? The CFZ does no such thing. Private Property rights have not been weakened. You got your talking points from the John Birch Society? That explains a lot.
The Amendments in the Bill of Rights can be voted out by a popularity contest, it just takes an Article V convention. It will not come down to that as our politicians don't have the muster to even agree to an Article V convention. The only one flooding this thread with irrelevant material is you with your diatribes not topic related.
What I don't understand is why? I don't think this way. They are here for a short period of time and then gone. They are supposed to get a worker's visa, or apply for citizenship before coming. If businesses want them, they should do this for them. I seem to remember that. I truly do not like the Fair Tax. I don't believe it is fair, and only hurts the poor more. A Flat Tax would work well. I see what you were getting at. A consumption tax would necessarily make all who live here pay. I'll take a look. This is very interesting. It helps to allow the government to stop any insurrection. It is a violation of the Constitution. I see you got banned. I do not know why, but I imagine you were telling too much. Thank you for posting this. I am sorry that others fear you so much, they had you banned. I do not fear your ideas. I think there is truth in them.
