Impeachment deposition delayed after Republicans storm proceedings

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    I’ve only provided the rule
     
  2. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Just they don’t get the evidence before or after
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Democrats never accept responsibility for anything. Just another case. Now Mullah Nadler and Schiff are attempting to obstruct the criminal investigation. They and their propagandists in the media set out to smear the only real investigators in what will turn out to be a 4 year circus. The clowns who started the Greatest Show on Earth will hopefully be frog walked to the clink. Clapper is already folding with the Nazi refrain --- "I was just following orders".
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    You should watch this, go back and research and see if you can debunk what was said. I will do my part to confirm as well.
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6097538166001/#sp=show-clips
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

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    Your false pretense is exposed by the reality that there is no rule that congressional impeachment inquiries must be held in public. The rule that was passed by the Republican majority under Speaker Boehner applies.

    With compelling evidence mounting, the desperate attempts by Trump zealots to turn the inquiry into Goudy's "circus" or "freak show" and thwart the revelation of truth by witness after witness will not succeed.

    In the ongoing depositions, equal numbers of Democratic and Republican representatives are hearing the testimonies of witnesses. When the fact-finding stage is complete, it will proceed to the public phase.

    Thus far, attempts to stonewall and disrupt the inquiry fulfilling its duties have failed to suppress the truth.

    In their determination to be thorough, several more important witnesses are scheduled to testify before the committees:
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  6. struth

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    I’ve produce the rules on impeachment.

    Shifty is conducting a hearing, not an impeachment one
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You can cling to your make-believe rules if you need to. Congress will continue to respect its actual rules.
     
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    Make believe??? It’s from the Houses website! Hahaha
     
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  9. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Proof of your last statement, please. And if CNN is not to your liking:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/impeachment-republicans-trump-055688
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...-congress-exposes-republican-hypocisy/588205/
    https://truthout.org/video/why-did-republicans-storm-a-closed-impeachment-hearing/

    Now, all you have to do is provide fact based information that disproves the contents of the links. And it would be nice if you answer the question previously put. I'll wait.
     
  10. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Ken Starr ran a grand jury investigation that was on public display regarding Whitewater and Hillary Clinton using insider trading and her connections to the White House. Impeachment hearings by the House with Slick Willy were done behind closed doors, after which results then released.
     
  11. struth

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    I never said his grand jury investigation was public. The impeachment hearing were.
     
  12. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    You proved what? Where? how? What post number did you do this on? You don't like the Wiki source, but you can't logically or factually disprove the content point for point. Your opinion, supposition and conjecture are worthless. The Dems are proceeding within the rules....nothing unconstitutional about it....since the GOP did the same with Benghazi.
     
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    .Zelenskiyy: … I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

    The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.....

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    https://news.yahoo.com/military-ammunition-sale-to-ukraine-faces-near-yearlong-delay-000127481.html
     
  14. kungfuliberal

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    And you're still wrong, as Clinton did hours of testimony to the House behind closed doors before it was released to the public and they proceeded to an article of impeachment. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Starr's fishing expedition via grand jury was the tip off that ran parallel to this...easy to confuse if you don't pay attention to details. Again, nothing done currently is unconstitutional. Remember the Benghazi hearings as well. The teabag/freedom caucus got caught BS'ing.
     
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    Yet another falsehood. Several of the republicans who stormed the bunker were not "kept out" and were perfectly able to attend.
     
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    Depositions are always done in private. No one is being denied "due process." The only thing Orwellian here is the doublespeak you are practicing with these accusations.
     
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  17. kungfuliberal

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    Man, where do you get this crap from? Your supposition and conjecture are worthless, much like the BS premise the teabag/freedom caucus GOP'ers gave....sheer hypocrisy since they forgot about Clinton's sex scandal and latter the Benghazi hearings.

    This is what happened....deal with reality: https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/t...est-bill-taylor-statement-ukraine-2019-10-23/

    https://crooksandliars.com/2019/10/rep-eric-swalwell-exposes-gop-scif-stunt
    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jake-ta...-part-of-how-republicans-conducted-oversight/
     
  18. kungfuliberal

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    In full context:

    While the House voted to launch a formal impeachment inquiry in the case of both Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, Democrats say the Constitution does not require any such vote to conduct an inquiry. Furthermore, recent changes to subpoena powers mean the Democratic-majority House committees leading the inquiry already have that tool at their disposal.
    Location of the hearings
    Rep. Jim Jordan criticized the secretive nature of the hearings, telling Fox News's Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith that "it's all being done in the basement of the Capitol where no one in the country can see."
    The hearings are taking place in the SCIF, a secure space on Capitol Hill often used for classified briefings, which is located in the basement of the Congressional Visitor's Center. The SCIF is where the House Intelligence Committee — which is leading the impeachment investigation — conducts its work. It's the same space where the Republican-led Intelligence Committee conducted interviews for the Russia investigation in the last Congress.
    Although normally committee hearings must be open, members can vote to close the hearing under specific circumstances. According to House rules, a hearing should be closed if the "disclosure" of the witnesses would defame or incriminate someone, endanger national security, compromise sensitive law enforcement info, or violate a House rule.
    Investigations into Nixon and Clinton also both featured closed door depositions before public hearings. Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has said the committees will hold public hearings after the initial round of closed-door interviews.
     
  19. kungfuliberal

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    See posts #284 and #285
     
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    AFTER the testimony begins behind closed doors....and what they testify to can only be speculated upon.
     
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    Zelensky I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.
    The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike..


    What is wrong with that?
     
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    Read the other links, as they give background to the conversation
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I'll stick with what you posted and don't any third party's explanation of the transcript, thanks.
     
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    what hilarious is that many of the Republicans storming the depositions were allowed in as they were on the committees, they was all just for show
     
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    WTF is the matter with you right wing wonks? ********* and moan about "opinions" and guess work, and then do the same when documentation is presented to support a persons statements.

    Any fool can have an opinion and debate how many angels dance on a pinhead. That just boils down to, Yes it is, No it isn't schoolyard bickering. That's why we have news reporters...check into what "the 4th estate" means.

    What news sources do YOU base your statements on? Are they valid? Do they withstand examination?

    What you did just now is intellectual cowardice.
     

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