Important lessons for both parties from the 2022 election

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  1. Disaffected

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    Dear Democrats,

    Congratulations on your glorious and astonishing triumph of not losing as badly as you possibly could have! Keep the following in mind and I'm sure you'll continue to relish many of these victorious minor-defeats in the future:

    1) Only losing a little is the same as winning, if not better! There is no clearer sign of the people's love then having them only take away a portion of your power.

    2) Be sure to interpret your narrow escape from total disaster as a national mandate to keep doing what you're doing. If the electorate only punished you a little bit for raising inflation and focusing on gender-related social issues this time, it's only logical that they will reward you for doubling down on those issues in the future!

    3) Rest assured that your victories (where you had them), were definitely the result of people voting FOR you and not at all the result of people voting AGAINST the staggeringly weak candidates put forward by the GOP. There's absolutely no chance of your facing stiffer competition in the future.

    4) Pay no attention to what's happening in Florida. Everything is fine.

    5) The best time to count chickens is before they hatch.

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    Dear Republican Party,

    In times of disappointment its important to reflect on how things went wrong and what lessons we can learn from our setbacks. With that in mind, I'd like to point out some of the most important steps you should take in the aftermath of the 2022 election. I think their merits of self-evident.

    1) Take no responsibility and remember that you are the victim here. Blame the system, blame cheating, blame the American people for being too stupid to pick the candidate that you picked for them. Under no circumstances blame yourself for running weak candidates that everyone told you would alienate moderates and independents.

    2) Change nothing; double-down on everything. In particular, be sure to double-down on Trump, election denialism, and anti-abortion legislation, because those are all clears "winners" and if you can be just a little more extreme about all of them the independents will surely change their minds and come to your side.

    3) Make sure your most prominent leaders tell everyone, and especially Republicans living in Georgia, that the system is hopelessly "rigged" and that their vote doesn't matter, because that is sure to drive turn-out in the inevitable Senate run-off in December.

    4) Just to emphasize: Really try to make it clear to the American electorate that you think they're idiots, that you have absolutely no conception of why they made the choices they did, and that you kind of hate them for destroying "your" country. People love that and they will be sure to reward you in the future.

    And finally, 5) Remember not to worry because whatever the final vote counts, or the election officials, or the audits, or the judicial system might have to say about it, you really won and Donald Trump is actually still president.
     
  2. Natty Bumpo

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    Dear Independents,

    I note that independents broke for Democrats over Republicans in the 2022 midterms by 4 percentage points nationally, according to a comprehensive survey from NORC at the University of Chicago that polled tens of thousands of voters during the election cycle for The Associated Press.

    In the 22 midterm elections from 1934 -2018, the President's party has averaged a loss of 28 House seats and 4 Senate seats.

    Democrats exceeding expectations is largely attributable to non-affiliated voters, reproductive freedom being a major factor, especially among women.

    Please keep authoritarians who would insinuate the State into private, personal matters at bay and, of course, protect democracy against losers who refuse to accept the will of the People. (Decisive victories by conservative Republicans of integrity savaged by election deniers, such as Kemp and Raffensperger in Georgia, bode well for the restoration of the nations noble tradition of peaceful transfers of power (1789-2021.)
     
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    Important lessons for both parties from the 2022 election

    ~ Lesson #1. ) America is dumbed-down more than we think ...
     
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    It varies, of course.

     
  5. Bluesguy

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    How about this lesson, spend tens of millions support your opponents worse candidates in the primaries so you get to run against them?
     
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    Worse candidates?
    I bet all of them were trumps chosen candidates. He only hires/supports the best people. Remember?
     
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    Looks like the Dems got something right. Yet they still are looking at losing both the House and Senate. But not with a Red Wave.
     
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    Yep, this country is totally dumbed down, and there is no hope for it. The people are totally convinced that the government will put them on welfare, and that they won’t have to work. Endless government payments will give them a life. Money solves everything, right! All you have to do is create it, and all goods and services magically appear. It’s a miracle! No Republican candidate, who stands for work and initiative, will ever be elected. You can shoot up drugs, smoke pot, not work and live the good life.

    That’s the message from November 8. John Fetterman is the future! MSNBC is already talking him up for president in 2024 or 2028.
     
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    ~ A sad commentary — but very likely an accurate assessment of America 's future. I see the USA, Canada and a few other Western countries eventually becoming part of a North American Union similar to what happened in Europe. Totalitarian one-world government "utopia" where everyone is equal — even the very wealthy elites.
     
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    That's the spirit, guys!

    Blame the American people! Tell them they're too lazy and stupid to know what's good for them and their country!

    It's obviously 100% their fault for failing to perceive the self-evident superiority of your side's candidates, and absolutely NOT your party's fault for failing to make a more compelling case or understand the true concerns of the electorate.

    As you've clearly deduced, the only logical next step is to insult the people's intelligence and character which will no doubt make them less stupid and more inclined to support your positions in the future!
     
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    The Federal Reserve is currently raising interest rates to slow inflation. The idea is to dampen demand for consumer goods and investments in durable goods to lower aggregate demand and lower the pressure on prices in general. At the same time, Biden and the Democrats in Congress are passing trillion dollar spending bills. To put a trillion dollars in perspective, that’s a million times a million times a million dollars. The number is mind blowing.

    The Democrats and the Federal Reserve are working at cross purposes. If the voters cared about inflation, they should of said, “Enough with the spending!” But they didn’t. Instead they told Joe Biden, “Go ahead; spend more.” Naturally Biden’s reaction was that he will change nothing. If the Senate is 50 - 50 again, which is likely, and Democrats hold the House, which is still possible, inflation will get worse and worse.

    In the early 1980s, it took some strong and very unpopular measures to break inflation’s back. Expectations are hard to change in the economy. People hated Fed chairman, Paul Volker, because of those policies, but it had to done. It’s going take another round of that, or the dollar will become virtually worthless.

    And yes, given the results from this election, 50% of the American people are clueless. I am not running for office, and I don’t come here to be a babysitter. If you can’t get some common sense, you deserve to be insulted. Explaining the issues to that 50% of the people clearly does not work.
     
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    You are off by one level of magnitude

    1 trillion = 1,000 * 1 billion
    1 billion = 1,000 * 1 million
    1 million = 1,000 * 1,000

    Your claim is that 1 trillion = 1 million * 1 million * 1 million or 1 million ^3
    It's actually 1 million ^ 2
     
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    If that’s all you got from my post, I guess it was wasted on you.
     
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    And will the Reps now adopt the same strategy?
     
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    If you say so.....why were the Dems spending money supporting them?
     
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    Because they were the best that trump could offer
     
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    And why were Dems helping to pay for their campaigns. And most were endoresed by Trump long after they declared son don't knownwhat you mean by he offered.
     
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    Why? Why not?
     
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    Luckily it looks highly unlikely that the dems hold the house. Gridlock thankfully
     
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    Yes why? In all my 60 years of following politics and elections I have never seen one political party spend it's campaign funds on another parties candidate because it believed they would stand a better chance to win than against against the other candidate. I view that as a blantant attempt to interfere in the other parties primary to select their candidate. Is that how you want our future political process to operate? You want have a problem of the Reps respond in kind?
     
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    Both parties do a lot of crap to try to win office.
    The whole system needs to be overhauled
     
  22. dairyair

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    So?
    You are pertinent to every piece of information ever known for those 60 yrs? Just because you aren't aware of something, doesn't mean it's never happened.
    I fail to see what is your point. Other than whining.
     
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    Ahhhh so the parties have been doing this for 60 years but no one ever noticed..................................geez that's the best you got?

    Do you approve of this new tactic and will not complain if the Reps decide that they too need to start funding opposition candidates so they can get the one they believe they can most easily defeat?
     
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    Did the Democrats gerrymander their way to success?
    GOP Winning Popular Vote by Wide Margin Despite Incongruous Results

    ". . . Republicans are currently winning the national popular vote for the House in Tuesday's midterm elections by a large margin, according to the latest data from the Cook Political Report.

    Specifically, GOP candidates have so far received 50,672,592 votes, or 52.3% of the total ballots cast as of this writing. Democrat candidates, by comparison, have so far received 44,802,597 votes, or 46.2% of the total. . . .

    It's unclear at this point what explains the glaring incongruity between the GOP's underwhelming performance in terms of winning seats on one hand and its significant lead in the popular vote on the other.

    "The craziest thing: Republicans are winning the House popular vote by 6.4% so far but just scraping by in the race for control," tweeted Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report. He noted the GOP margin will narrow when votes come in from deep blue Oregon, Washington, and California, as well as from cities that take longer to count ballots.

    Still, Republicans are projected to win the popular vote. . . . "
     
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    When has any party ever given huge financial support to a opposition candidate so they could run against that candidate instead of the one the other side were supporting more?
     

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