Important lessons for both parties from the 2022 election

the problem is with repub ethics, if one supports citizens united, they support this, I do not support citizens united

 

Citizens United has zero to do with this.

 

has everything to do with this, PAC's could not do this without Citizens United

what do you think of Republicans signing up as Independents to vote in dem Primaries to vote for the worst Candidates? Then voting in the General for their Republican Candidate?

 

That's free political speech, unrationed by government. Unethical behavior remains unethical behavior.

 

what do you think of Republicans signing up as Independents to vote in dem Primaries to vote for the worst Candidates? Then voting in the General for their Republican Candidate?

Unethical?

"Romney also said he voted in Dem primaries to influence the race"

https://www.politico.com/blogs/burn...rimaries-to-influence-the-race-updated-115774

""In Massachusetts, if you register as an independent, you can vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary," said Romney, who until he made an unsuccessful run for Senate in 1994 had spent his adult life as a registered independent. "When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for the Republican.""

 

People are free to vote for whomever they choose. There is no ethical problem with that casting of a single vote.
It is not the same thing to finance a candidate in the primary whose views you plan to campaign against in the general election.

 

then people can donate to whoever they want

they are both just as unethical

 

Nope. The Dem effort in Repub primaries was an organized party initiative to damage the democratic process.

 

This is true. But then I think that’s always been the case.

Part of running for office, as an individual or a party, is figuring out how to reach and inform the electorate.

 

nope, the repub effort during the primaries was just as unethical and was designed to damage the democratic process.

 

That's a mere falsehood. And I'm uninterested in defending Republicans. Whatever they may have done does not excuse the Dems.

 

never said it did, I said it was just as unethical as what that dem PAC did

 

Nope. No comparison by scale or organization.

 

No, they didn't "win". Republicans blew it and people voted against them, much like they did in 2020 when they voted against Trump as rather than voting for Biden.

They SHOULD think about sarcastic 'advice' #2 in the OP, because if they stay the course, it will only get worse in 2024.

 

I can read the news, so your point is a bit late. Did you just want to gloat?

 

No, you didn't get the point. I mean that although they retain the control of the Senate, they didn't earn it, it fell on their lap due to mistakes made by their opponents. People didn't vote for them, or their policies, they voted against GOP and their policies.

 

Your point has been in the news, so again it seems like you just wanted to gloat about it. I originally said "It seems . . . ." which was said prior to important races being called. I also clearly stated there would be no Red Wave.

 

just as unethical of Republicans to have done what they did..

 

Nope. In our area we saw TV ads for a nut case Republican. Those ads were paid for by Democrats. Republicans never did that to Democrats. (The nut case lost.)

 

republicans did that, $$$ is free speech remember

but if you can't denounce republicans doing what they did, just seem partisan to me

Republicans ran ghost candidates to steal votes from dems... just as bad

republicans sent deceptive ballots to dems, the list goes on and on

 

Please provide specifics to back up your claims.
I have no party, but I find the Dems' actions in this cycle to be a new low.

 

already did

 

No. You did not.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?goto/post&id=1073845250#post-1073845250

I also posted two other links to repubs using ghost Candidates, but must have been another thread

 

Nothing about ghost candidates, and certainly nothing about funding candidates whose views you intend to run against in the general election. You came up empty.
States with open primaries have them so people can cross over with their votes; it's a feature, not a bug.