In 24 States, 50% or More of Babies Born on Medicaid; New Mexico Leads Nation With 72%

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  1. dairyair

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    Start breeding.
     
  2. dairyair

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    I don't want to pay for the RW endless ME wars. And that costs way more than abortions or welfare to raise the kids of those parents who can't afford it because you didn't let them abort.
     
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    You do understand that Medicaid isn't just for unemployed people? In fact, most people on Medicaid are employed, but earn less than 133% of the poverty level.
     
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    Society. Who is responsible for the mess in the ME?

    For those who can't afford the kids, it's give 100% BC, which doesn't exist, let them abort if they want, but RW won't let them and is making it harder to do so, pay the cost of raising the kid. If parents can't afford to birth the kid, odds are they can't afford to raise them, at least early on.

    So what do you propose? Being a libertarian. Which I fall in line with more than any other party, at this point.
     
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    Then some need to work more hours or get a second job.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    250 FREE minutes is a lot of minutes.
     
  7. dairyair

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    Yep. I said that. 4 hours and 10 minutes per month.
    43,200 minutes in a month.
    They get 250 of those free. In case they have to call 911 or speak to a doctor on the phone.
     
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  8. Texan

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    We can agree on some of that. I'm about ready to bring most of our military home and use them to seal our borders. We can't afford to protect the whole world.

    We also need some serious welfare reform. Having welfare babies shouldn't be encouraged or profitable.
     
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    You mean if a woman says "No", it does not really mean "no"? All a woman has to do is take precautions for herself, and say "no condom, no sex". Or are women so weak and feeble that they can't control their own bodies?
     
  10. dairyair

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    Can't men say no condom, no sex?
    Odds are, you will ignore this.
     
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    Indeed.
     
  12. dairyair

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    I assume you to be RW.
    It's nice to see some RW use their heads and realize, we can't afford to police the world. And ignore our internal issues.
    I could agree with sealing the border, I don't think a wall fits the bill, but a different topic.

    And what is profitable in your world? Some on welfare just get basic necessities of life. I'd say, a majority. But, necessities is somewhat subjective.
    Basics are, food, shelter, and perhaps clothing.
     
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    I propose we do nothing. If you pay for an abortion, you'll pay for another. I want less welfare subsidizing bad decisions.
     
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    Don't think anyone sane is saying don't allow them to abort. Abortion will NEVER be illegal. It comes down to who pays and the responsible ALWAYS pay the most.
     
  15. dairyair

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    I want less wars. I want less USA nation building.
    I want less gov't in bedrooms.
    I want a lot less.
    Paying for an abortion is far less cost than paying for a birth, then paying to raise the kids.
    Pick your poison.
     
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    I don't want any of it as it is not in my best interest nor is it a penalty directly toed to a decision. You keep acting like they're is only two choices.
     
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    You keep acting like doing nothing is the best choice.
    Hungry people, homeless people, will do what is necessary to be sheltered and not hungry.
    If the USA was a poor country, you might have a point, but we aren't.
    I view welfare as a crutch, not a life achievement.
     
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    I view welfare as a means to promote a lifestyle of dependence.
     
  19. dairyair

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    I don't. I used it decades ago. I have been working as an engineer with a good salary since then. More than paying back in taxes what I borrowed or used.
    I did not become dependent. The majority who use it don't use it as a lifestyle.
    Somehow, I think you only know what the RW media feeds you.
     
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    By profitable, I mean that people shouldn't get pay increases for every kid they have while they are already living on welfare. People need to be held responsible for their actions instead of passing the bill on to the tax payers. The government has killed charity giving money to the poor and billing the tax payer. People don't give as much because they are already giving involuntarily to the government to take care of it. Government can't do anything efficiently and without massive fraud. Our biggest problem is illegal aliens and the systematic gaming of our social services, medical care, education, and legal systems.
     
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    Sure, it should be used as a temporary safety net. Let's make it temporary. Also, I don't consume any right wing media, but I am aware of the amount of the budget that is redistribution. That is what I refer to as welfare. For example, the child tax credit is a form of welfare Imo. I have children, yet due to household income, we do not receive the credit....hence, welfare.
     
  22. dairyair

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    OK, thanks for your opinion. I disagree with your opinion on the giving part and massive fraud.
    But if you have numbers showing massive fraud, I'm willing to go over it.
     
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    I received the credit years ago while in college, married with kids.
    Since graduating, I have not got the credit or any other welfare.
    And the vast majority who use welfare aren't on it for life.
     
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    The demographics...
     
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    The movie "Idiocracy" is going to be so prophetic when this is all said and done.
     

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