In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

But…….. Geoff Lawton Ph. D's videos and research do provide us with some reason to be optimistic that this mess………. could perhaps be turned around?

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-geoff-lawton-permaculture-tipping-point.html
Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
Over the past several years I have watched several absolutely fascinating films by this man.

He is clearly attempting to improve our lives………… and save the lives of our children and grandchildren.

I have got to find his film about how simply getting farms to NOT burn the stocks from the previous year's crop….. but instead use them as a mulch that holds in water…… can profoundly alter how we view the possibility of turning deserts green.


Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1la9ik-MscM

 

By aerosols I assume that you mean the dust, dirt and soot that goes from factory smokestacks into the atmosphere!

True….. these have been reduced in North America, but………… not so much in China or India.

 

I must disagree……… the evidence that strongly indicates a higher dimensional intelligence that is emotionally attached to each and every one of us………

…… implies that a power exists that possesses the technological capability that can save ……… millions and even billions of these people…….. even though…… they barely know their right hand from their left???!

(The following comment will give our readers some necessary background information):…..
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=407875&page=21&p=1065055326#post1065055326
Seriously….. What would it take for a GOD to prove itself? (Part 2)
….

 

No……. Messiah Yeshua - Jesus……. by any and all names that He is know by in many cultures……... has the authority to give the order and
aliens/ ufo's / Watchers/ angels/ arch-angels/ ghosts/ deceased saints from every religion……/
nature spirits that assisted at Findhorn/ and even restored and repentant former fallen angels….. will go to work to save a miraculously huge percentage of the seven billion
courageous souls - spirits who volunteered to come down here into four dimensional space - time at this extremely dangerous time in human history!

Not only can UFO's bring peace to the world…. but they can …. and will…..alter the environment in ways that will utterly astonish our most brilliant intellects.

We seem to be in a much much better time line than the one in the study initiated by Helen Wambach Ph. D. that was completed by Dr. Chet Snow that I referred to on page 1 of this discussion, post # 7….

This time around…… there does NOT need to be a ninety to ninety five percent depopulation of the earth….. as Helen Wambach Ph. D. felt the numbers indicated in her research……. I think that she was
probably basically correct in her analysis but……… we are clearly in a totally different ….. and vastly improved……..line of time!

(Incidentally there is a poster in this discussion named Frank Grimes who is one of the most amazing comedians that I have ever encountered on discussion forums. He gets started
on this on page one…..post #3):

http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/338698-will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world.html

Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????
I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


Take a look at page 2…. post #17…….

 

BestViewedWithCable…… do you know Frank Grimes?

He is hilarious!

If we can lure him back over here………. he will seriously liven up this thread……..

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338698&page=17&p=1065055402#post1065055402

Rats!!!!!!!!! I just checked and Frank hasn't been here in over a year!!!!!! I betcha those evil Reptilians got Frank!!!????

Those dastardly Reptilians…… knew that Frank GRimes….. could not be replaced in the plan to save millions and even billions of the ignorant masses…….. so they managed to get Frank off the forum somehow!!!!!??

 

From a P.M.: AboveAlpha…… I do realize that Robert De Niro is almost the opposite of you but……. if De Niro read hundreds of your posts…… I know that he would try his level best to
become as much like you as he possibly could for the sake of the role that he was looking at…… and…… the persona that he created when he played
Jack Tiberius Byrnes on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_Fockers
is kind of perfect for what I have in my head at this time!

What I am thinking of is Vince Vaughn…….. as me….. (sort of)……. although I am actually aposTate Worldwide Church of God….. I know that Vince
could easily get himself into the role of an aposTate Latter Day Saint…………. who also happens to have volunteered to become a metaphorical Yom
Kippur goat…… much as I did back in 1990.

AboveAlpha….. Mr. Peter MacKay is temporarily retiring but……. I strongly suspect that he will be Prime Minister of Canada one of these years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/breaking-peter-mackay-to-not-run-again/article24692290/

"Minister Peter MacKay exits politics, a blow to Tories' Maritime hopes"

AboveAlpha…….. I am one of the only people on earth using the phrase "Unified Theory of Modern World Problems" on a regular basis…….
as you know….. when I do this…. I am not merely joking around………. I am convinced that it is theoretically possible to address the largest
problems facing humanity…. simultaneously….. and the key…….. has to do with money……. who creates it…….. why…….. why…. when … how…..what are their
goals?!



http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...ughn-mitt-romney-he-wins-election-2012-a.html

"Vince Vaughn…. as Mitt Romney…. and he wins the election in 2012?!"

AboveAlpha…….. assuming non linear time……. I can get into the head of Vince Vaughn………. and through him…. I can get to President Putin…….

Shalom……


Dennis Tate

AA……… I am almost certain that what I wrote yesterday in another topic is basically accurate…….


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=398648&p=1065059264#post1065059264
I just read powerful evidence that the Federal Reserve is doing an excellent job.

Unified Field Theory of Modern World Problems.

Matthew 13:38

Near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown that ……. all the people of the world ……. had the capability to unite….. to become like one!

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

The negative events in the USA that Howard was shown during his NDE…… did happen in that other time line….. that Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow may have seen something about through their research…….. but we are in an entirely new branch of time……… and amazing progress is being made…………. and this time line isn't over yet because our worst mistakes can be turned into an asset……….. and Robert De Niro……. can reach the baddest dudes in America…….. the "Mafia/ and their collaborators"……… and getting them turned around could be the way to pull this planet (field)…… out of perhaps twenty to fifty percent of the mess that we are in………….

 

AboveAlpha…… Jonathan Goldsmith…….. got nothin' on you brother!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Interesting_Man_in_the_World

 

I have to admit that you could be right…………….. I just read some more of Dr. Chet Snow's research and it doesn't look so good for the next couple of decades?!

Unless we continue to make much better choices than were made in that other time line?!

http://journalofregressiontherapy.com/book_review/mass-dreams-future-dr-chet-b-snow/

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...ing-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/
Gore only wants what's good for the environment

 

Interesting article…… Thank you!

I believe that Mr. Gore is at least partly correct about atmospheric carbon being a potential problem…….. the link with rising acidic levels in the oceans is an aspect of the whole situation that I just recently came to understand.

I personally think that we are in one helluva mess……. but I don't think that a carbon tax or carbon credits are a particularly effective way to fix the problem……….


http://www.politicalforum.com/science/394228-ocean-acidification.html

Ocean acidification...
This trend of the oceans becoming more acidic could in fact be more dangerous even than global warming.

A number of breeds of snails now have very weak shells.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification

 

I just ran into some heavy information that fits with post #7 from back on page one.

This isn't exactly funny...… .but it is ironic in a lot of ways.

An alternate time line in which America is fifteen or twenty percent under the ocean by January 1, 2013....... is a dangerous world for people living in all other nations.

Although America is an imperfect.....(OK, highly imperfect world policeman)...… there is logic in the idea..... that an imperfect world policeman..... IS A LOT BETTER THAN HAVING NO WORLD POLICEMAN AT ALL!!!!!!!!!

http://nhneneardeath.ning.com/forum...d-excerpt-by-ariela-solsol?xg_source=activity

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html
The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

 

Here is the problem you get into when you believe the political hype about Ocean Acidification (which is a misnomer at best with a claim that it has become less alkaline (more base) 8.2 to 8.1 PH but still well within the natural state of alkalinity range of the ocean)., The EPA was being sued to do more about ocean acidification on the Pacific coast. This was based on what the EPA said about ocean acidification. In the EPA brief presented to court.

“There were no in situ field studies documenting adverse effects on the health of aquatic life populations in either state,” the EPA’s motion says. “Nor was there any other information documenting effects on indigenous populations of aquatic life in state waters indicating stressors attributable to ocean acidification. The only information available regarding aquatic life in ambient waters under natural conditions was inconclusive.”

http://www.law360.com/articles/568751/epa-seeks-to-sink-green-group-s-ocean-acidification-suit

 

Imagine please for a moment that ........ you have been elected.....King of the world and a "Hoosier8 Volunteerism Hour: is being printed up...........and is postulated to be linked to a plan to address ten of the world's largest problems simultaneously?

What if the fate of humanity were in YOUR HANDS?

Under that extreme set of circumstances could you see something truly positive in what would seem to have been a terrible error made by a Canadian Prime Minister back in 1974?

Is it true that terrible central banking policy that makes Canada and America look to be nearly bankrupt on the surface........ actually one of the best possible policies for the environment????????

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...e-elliott-trudeau-save-world-environment.html

Did P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau save the world environment?



This is actually a quite serious question.

P. M. Trudeau made an error back in 1974, that may well come to be understood as one of the most important mistakes ever made by a political leader.

When P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau took Canada off the gold standard, (which incidentally had to be done for many valid reasons), a miscalculation was made that is the number one reason why our national debt has spiraled out of control.

But..... there is a very good side to this because all of us know that we humans have been in a somewhat similar mentality to our ancestors who shot, boiled, barbecued, roasted and friend passenger pigeons into extinction.

We are highly prone to OVER Consumptionism............. I addressed part of the background issues back in my 2006 provincial level campaign as an independent.

...................

The late NDP Leader Mr. Jack Layton managed to summarize the subject far more succinctly than I could..........

 

Here is a little more information on how you perhaps could initiate the Hoosier8 Unified Theory of Modern World Problems......… worded for an audience primarily of Orthodox Jews......

http://thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139

My point is this.......... if the whole thing was on your shoulders............. are you sure that you would still approach the subject of climate change, overconsumption and pollution as you are doing at this time?

 

Here is a quotation from AboveAlpha that I am even attempting to bring to the attention of Pope Francis....... partly because Pope Francis is in an even better position to print up some sort of Volunteerism Hour even that Hoosier8.


Quote Originally Posted by

..... quoted in post #4....

http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...ut-we-assist-jews-get-rabbi-nachman-back.html

Dear Pope Francis...... how about we assist the Jews to get Rabbi Nachman back?

 

Seas have been rising since the end of the little ice age, they were higher before. You cannot stop the world from doing what it does but you can prepare. Adaption, which we are very good at, instead of spending an estimated 100 trillion to mitigate folly for an unknown outcome with money that could be spent much better.

Feeding everyone is being addressed with GMO.

Both of these are driven or being obstructed by irrational environmentalists.

Pollution is a different matter altogether and has been addressed but if you look at how it is being addressed and by whom, you will see that it is only first world countries that implement some form of capitalism are capable of it. Environmentalists are against capitalism too.

 

AboveAlpha.... I want to draw your attention to post here #66 by Hoosier8.

He is amazingly well informed..... and he is onto some ideas with great potential.

 

Above Alpha has a point about methane but it is apparent it has only happened once and even that is conjecture. That was during the Precambrian mass extinction some 500-600 million years ago when nearly all life on Earth was extinguished and allegedly triggered by a terrestrial impact from space that allegedly caused the Siberian Traps.

 

But..... whether his fears are exaggerated or not.......... how could we possibly go wrong by altering the central banking system, ceasing to define ourselves as bankrupt..... and finance a peace deal between Israel and Jordan that results in turning the deserts of Jordan green?

(Sorry for the repitition, I know you saw this before, but somebody reading this discussion might not have).


http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-peace-deal-between-jordan-israel-coming.html

Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.



I read both of Dannion Brinkley's books about his two near death experiences back in the '90's.


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Dannion Brinkley:
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"The country of Jordan was changing color" could mean that the deserts were turning green. There is an ancient Islamic prophecy that in the latter days… the deserts of the Islamic nations would be turned green.

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

 

Wow!!!!!

Based on the truly insightful response to the poll here..... maybe I owe you Americans an apology for this discussion???????!

 

You know...… The Donald might just be able to make use of the results of the poll question here!?

In my opinion....... you all did well in that poll!

 

Rainbow Crow...… am I perhaps being naïve to strongly suspect that The Donald will be much more intellectually honest about this whole climate change subject than Mr. Al Gore has been?


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=442857&page=3&p=1065993654#post1065993654

 

This thread is now quite relevant again due to the election of Mr. Donald Trump as President.

Would anybody here like to see President Obama visit..... and perhaps move to Canada
after he leaves office?

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=483341&p=1066819587#post1066819587
President Obama, remember the Antigonish Movement?

 

Maybe you should consider the actual science instead of a propaganda film. Gore would not have negated anything and could not since he wouldn't control the world.

China consumes more than 4 billion tons of coal each year, compared to less than 1 billion tons in the United States and 600 million tons in the European Union. China surpassed the United States to become the largest global carbon dioxide emitter in 2007, and it is on track to double annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions by 2017. By 2040, China’s coal power fleet is expected to be 50 percent larger than it is today and these power plants typically operate for 40 years or more.

 

Excellent statistics Hoosier8!

It was reasoning like this that caused me to take the angle on climate change that I did in my
2008 campaign for Municipal Councillor.

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