In another 35 years there may be more muslims than Christians in the world

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, you're saying you know Islam and the millions of radicals don't.

    What Muslim nation should we be emulating? Not one has religious freedom as we know it in the Judeo Christian West.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only the argument the Left has is to change the topic.

    In logical argument it's called "obscuring the issue".
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Oh, cry me a river.
    The Muslims here never even read about Muhammed.

    what's your excuse for that.

    I'll bet every Christian read about Jesus.
     
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    Yes!! Consider ISIS. It involves so few people that they couldn't be found statistically.

    And, that's one of the problems with your ideas on Islam.

    It's like finding some KKK Christians in Alabama somewhere and deciding that represents Christianity world wide.
     
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    The massacre at Jericho was purely because the people there wanted to live on their land.

    And, by killing every man, woman, child and animal, they emphasized their brutality so that other cities would surrender - a clear case of terrorism blessed by God in the Bible.
     
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    Total bullshit.
    Read the documented version of the religion.

    KKK Christians can't stand up to a discussion with scholars.
     
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    The Jewish bible.
    The same god the Muslims pretend to claim.

    But you are still trying to change the subject.
     
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    Total bullsh-t.

    That's why I say read the documented version, and don't take what some group says.
    Make your own decision.

    and make an educated televised, public discussion about it.
    With scholars from both sides.
    So there is no bullshi--ing, no mistakes.
     
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    What you are doing here is a perfect example of what is going on in the world.

    We are not even arguing about the intentions of Islam.

    we are arguing about presenting it, investigating it, what are you hiding.

    Why are you afraid to let people know what the religion is about.

    I would say, you are terrorist material.

    You are intentionally hiding the religion.
     
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    The "religious freedom" supported daily by Trump?

    Muhammad declared religious freedom in the Constitution of Medina. The Qur'an states that heaven includes Muslims, Jews and Christians.

    Classic Islam includes religious pluralism including in sharia, often with Jews having their own courts in parallel.

    Today, there are wars and despotic dictatorships across much of the ME. Even WE have a role in that.
     
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    do you know anything about abbrogations.
    Do you know the Christians and Jews must accept allah and Muhammed, before they can go to heaven.
     
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    Too bad no Muslim nation treats Christians as equals, I guess you know more about Islam than they do.
     
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    They were a threat to the nation of Israel. https://www.ligonier.org/blog/why-d...kill-every-man-woman-and-child-promised-land/

    Exactly what we did at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. God isn't a pacifist.
     
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    Yes. Mainline Muslims state strongly that the radicals do not follow Islam.
     
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    That's what all the Abrahamic faiths say. If you don't accept god/allah/yhwh, you don't go to heaven.
     
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    Yet 85% of Egyptian Muslims think 'apostates' should be killed. Can we agree that is a radical position?
     
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    LOL, they're acting in self defense. We would never put up with savages firing thousands of rockets at us. Arabs in Israel have it better than anywhere else in the ME.
     
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    Don't twist it around

    They must accept Allah and Muhammed.

    All monotheistic religions have a heaven and most have a "Members only" sign.
     
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    The USA maintained the continued rule of the pre-revolution government, providing military equipment and supporting the economy of the Egyptian military (the manufacturers of almost all goods exported) and provided advice and influence in its governance. Thus large numbers see the USA as the enemy.

    I don't know the what, when or wordings of the poll you reference, but there is no doubt that the population ended up very much opposed to anything related to the USA - a cause requiring risk to their lives in their revolution.

    It shouldn't be surprising that with democracy and secularism getting a black eye of that magnitude the people became more susceptible to the calls of the more radical elements that led a victorious revolution.
     
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    All three religions subscribe to the god of the bible and require acceptance of that god.

    Muhammed was a prophet - not a god.
     
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    No, they absolutely are not.

    Take a look at the various routes of the wall. It goes up river valleys, capturing agricultural land, NOT across the high ground useful for defense.

    And, whether Arabs in Israel are OK is absolutely irrelevant in any discussion of Israel's ethnic cleansing.

    Besides, Israel holds nonJews as second class citizens in their version of apartheid light. In fact, the government promotes a future of nonJews being established as second class citizens by constitutional amendment - regularizing a system that already exists.

    But again, that is irrelevant to the humanitarian atrocities they carry out in Palestine.
     
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    They claim they do, but they also changed the rules that only the later addresses.

    ie. The Muslims claim it is the same God, he just changed his mind.
    Now he wants all the Jews and christians dead..
    The jews do not pray to a god who wants them dead.

    And Muhammed was a prophet.
    You must accept Muhammed, as the last messenger of God, to become a muslim
     
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    But..But...But.

    Non-muslims on muslim land are dhiminies, worse than second class citizens.

    why is it OK for them, and not Israel.
     
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    And Muhammed was a prophet.
    You must accept Muhammed, as the last messenger of God, to become a muslim

    and the real brainless classic is you don't have to know anything about Muhammed.
    Just accept him.

    Ask the Muslims here, None I have encountered, know the first thing about him.
     

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