In January 2019, Democrats will be able to impeach President Trump in the House. Will they?

By doing what...? Joining the blood-thirsty radical Democrats in their scorched-earth effort to impeach Trump?! Really, you Leftists don't make any sense at all....

By ruling the House, they'll be able to obstruct all initiatives offered by Republicans, drag their feet, whine, and bitch about anything and everything that both the president and the Senate do for the next two years -- plus, they'll be able to impeach Trump! What radical Democrat could possibly pass up on opportunities like those? Kids running wild in a candy store never had it so good...!

And nobody's happier about it than these two guys....

. "Dude -- it just doesn't get any damn better than this!"

 

pollycy, Trump and the GOP pander its base with its own brand of Identity Politics.

 

I don't keep up with all the latest, trendy 'buzz-phrases' many people use, so I googled "Identity Politics".

Here's what came up first:

Dictionary

i·den·ti·ty pol·i·tics
noun

1. a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

So, Jake, you called me out by name, but --

1. I'm an unaffiliated voter (gave up my LONG-time Republican Party membership in July 2017, and I've posted that numerous times in this forum). Why? I'm pissed off at the Republican Party and the RINO's who have infested it.... How am I biased in favor of Republicans?
2. I'm White, but I've posted in this forum on a number of occasions that all the latest bleeding-edge genetic and intelligence research shows that the East Asian (Oriental) is actually the most advanced race, with the highest overall intellect! How am I biased in favor of Caucasians?
3. Nothing about the issue of the upcoming crop of House Democrats impeaching Trump has anything to do with 'religion', and I haven't said one (ONE) word about religion in this context in this thread. So, how am I leveraging 'religion'?
4. Social background? Nope. I'm just a fairly recently-retired person, who worked all my life, and am very 'plain-vanilla' middle-class. Nothing about that reflects 'identity politics'.
5. "Exclusive political alliances"? EXCLUSIVE? What's exclusive about being a cast-off, ex-Republican, without any party, any candidates who even pretend to give a sh*t about me, or anything else that makes me (or those like me) special in any way. I'm an American who reveres the Constitution, obeys the law, supports myself with my own money, and ask for nothing from the government that I haven't EARNED, according to long-established "law of the land".

In other words, then, Jake -- you don't know a damn thing about me or people like me. You make yourself look completely FOOLISH by pretending that you do....

 

Identity Politics is a term that has been used since early in the 1980s to describe the various groups that the parties service. For instance, the Moral Majority of fundamentalists and evangelicals were serviced by the GOP. Look up the terms if you are not sure of them.

pollycy says he is not affiliated, infers that he is a neutral in all of this, and then lamblasts like a far right Republican into the Democrats.

And then he attacks me personally by name because he cannot defend himself for his silly posting.

Guys, if you put your name to something your write, then, hint, own up to it.

 

You, Jake, blasted me by name, first. I defended myself by drawing a contrast between myself and what you casually, and cavalierly, decided was my "identity politics". As I said before, you don't know a damn thing about me, or people like me... but you, Jake, make yourself clearly understood for all to see. Are you as careless about everything else in life as you are about what you write in a forum?

Unable to 'pin' anything else on me with any degree of certainty or accuracy, you flounder around with aimless assertions about being "Moral Majority of fundamentalists and evangelicals". Hint: If I "lamblast" (sic) Democrats, it's in response to the America-hating vomit we see pouring out of the mouths of its headliners -- creeps like Kamela Harris, Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez, Corey Booker, 'Dizzy Lizzy' Warren, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Waters, et al....

Don't you see what's happening? Democrats will, in all likelihood, find some pretext to impeach Trump... then, Republicans in the Senate will throw the 'impeachment' in the trash. No one achieves anything -- except for our opponents abroad who are laughing their asses off at what a colossal failure we, collectively, are making out of ourselves!

It's funny... some of my worst 'lamblasting' has been reserved -- not for America-hating Democrats, but for slimebag, hypocritical RINO's, who have all but destroyed the Republican Party with their cowardly, sabotage of nearly every good thing that really did make 'this country great' -- back when it WAS great. Think of it as "equipoise", Jake....

 

I responded to Pollycy's post by his name, he gets unhappy that I do, then he hammers me by name.

I hammered his points and ideology into the ground.

I don't care if he is unhappy.

The far right is well described in his last two paragraphs above.

 

But, Jake, I am happy! Why wouldn't I be? After all, I do have equipoise.... And, it's oh-so evident what you find happiness in. Be thankful for it, Jake -- hell, you might as well be.

And you should be proud -- it is a notable accomplishment to be able to convolute things as you have and still be able to believe that you have made "a silk purse out of a sow's ear"....

. . ... UNLESS you're a radical Democrat!

 

pollycy, you make me smile. Don't stop.

 

Anyone with actual equipoise would NOT post highly emotive ranting screeds about the Dems like these;

And yes, there are other emotive rants about minorities, immigrants, etc, etc.

None of them DEMONSTRATE the attributes of equipoise!

Yes, I uphold your right to vent your bile in those screeds but to claim that they demonstrate equilibrium is patently false.

 

I don't think they will attempt to impeach him, and I hope that doesn't do so anyway. It is a bigger game than they could handle despite their majority in the U.s house. The aim of some politicians is to disturb the system and change the status quo regardless of the consequences. Democracy works for such people only when they win.

 

There's no point, they know it wouldn't pass in the Senate to actually remove him. Plus, many Democrats after this last election said they had no plans to vote for an impeachment. If they are wrong and it doesn't work out...it would be bad for their tenure as a career politician. Many think it would spearhead Republicans and 3rd party voters to the polls in 2020 for Trump if the left tried impeachment.

 

There will be no impeachment, unless somehow the yayhoos take over the Dem leadership in the House.

 

Apples and oranges.

In the first place the trigger to investigate Clinton was Benghazi. She committed no crimes and Benghazi morphed into emails.


Trump is vulnerable in 4 distinct areas.
1. Firing of Comey to obstruct justice
2. Trumps loans with Russia and money laundering.
3. Paying hush money to whores from campaign funds
4, Trump Tower meeting obstruction of justice. cover-up.

 

Hi, Te. I hope you're planning a happy Thanksgiving. I'm sure that, like your close colleague, Jake, you have a lot to be happy about, too.... If you're having poultry for the big T-day feast, I recommend a name-brand Riesling Auslese from either the Mosel or the Rhine regions, served cold, after being allowed to breathe for about thirty minutes.

Bottom line -- In 2019, Democrats will get to impeach Trump for anything that amuses them. The Senate won't remove him, of course, and the 'trench warfare' between radical Democrats, squishy-assed RINO's, and Conservatives will become increasingly bitter and implacable, right up noon on Wednesday, January 20, 2021. Oh, tidings of comfort and joy....

. Look -- it's the "equi-porpoise"!

 

Congratulations on regaining a semblance of your equi-LIBRIUM, Cy!



Thanks for the advice on the wine to go with the traditional T-Day turkey but I suspect that it will go just as well with the fish that I am planning on having instead. (I have become bored with the tradition so branching out to try different things instead. )

Yes, this T-Day I will be thankful for the restoration of the checks and balances in our nation. It is long overdue IMO and what transpires next remains to be seen.

 

Impeachment of the President is a political process. The president is impeached when the House issues articles of impeachment.

Thats it. That is all the House needs is articles.

The Senate is removal [conviction].

 

Actually, you might like the Auslese with your fish, but that depends on what fish it is, and how it's prepared. Many fish dishes might be a bit overpowered by an Auslese... consider any Kabinett-class wine... maybe a Spätlese. But, for those who like a steely, less-sweet wine, you can't do better than an austere French Chablis!

My personal favorite among French whites is "Le Montrachet"... which Alexandre Dumas said was a wine that a man should drink on his knees, with his head bared! Ah, the memories....

 

They have no articles......no realistic hope either.

That was easy.

 

In January 2019, Democrats will be able to impeach President Trump in the House. Will they?
As a Democrat who likes absolutely NOTHING about Trump, I hope the Democrats don't impeach Trump unless & until there's enough support in the Senate to convict him. Otherwise, it would be a wast of time, money & popular support for the Democrats--and a total loss politically. I advise Democrats in the House concentrate on creating a workable national health care bill that could be sold to the voters in 2020, along with upgrading our national infrastructure, and opposing Trump in any reasonable way possible.

 

The only ones who are hoping for a Trump impeachment are overwhelmingly from the far right who want the Dems to alienate America.

 

Not necessarily, Jake. There are a lot of people who are, or have been, upset with Trump about various things. I don't know if they're rankled enough to want him to be impeached, exactly, but you know even better than I do that Donald Trump is not a particularly popular president.

According to the Gallup poll, as of two days ago, 43% approve of him, and 53% do not! Link: https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx . That's not good, even though it's better than he's done in this poll in about a month.

 

Trump is a CEO not a politician. CEOs don't worry about popularity, they concentrate on getting the job done. A CEO knows to make an omelette you have to crack a few eggs. That is why people are happy with the direction of the country but not happy with Trump.

 

Actually I was referring to Bill Clinton.

 

I don't think "not liking the president" is grounds for impeachment.

 

The likihood that mueller has any evidence to prove trump comitted treason with the russians is practically zero