In State Duma of the Russian Federation suggested to strike a nuclear attack to United States of Am

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    You want to check?

    And besides,
    1. Russian missiles fly where the Russians want.
    2. Even American presidents say - "American media is fake media."
     
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    There is nothing surprising about this. Remember who financed Hitler's rise to power - for example, the Jew Max Warburg, by the way, the brother of the director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Paul Warburg.
    Also, influential Jewish industrialists Fritz Mandel and Reinold Gesner made large financial injections into the NSDAP.
    A number of researchers claim that the banking dynasty, whose name has become a symbol of wealth, the Rothschilds, was also involved in financing Hitler.
    Rockefellers, also Jews, generally supplied fuel to the Third Reich almost until the end of the war. Vessels with fuel from Standard Oil, under the Panamanian flag, carried fuel for Hitler through Franco's Spain.
    It got to the point of being amazing - in a Spanish port, fuel was pumped from a tanker to German submarines, which went into the Atlantic and sank American ships.
    Remember what Marx said - "There is no crime that a capitalist will not commit for the sake of 300% profit."
     
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    Boys play with toys.
    Look at the gun culture in the United States for evidence of that.
    Weapons manufacturers have a vested interest in the consumption of weapons because it makes them rich.
    The rights and wrongs of conflict matter much less than the dollars and rubles.
     
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    Fedorov is not McCain at all. Fedorov is just a clown. He has followers, but there are idiots like himself. How can you take seriously a person who believes that Americans and the British are reptilians? That the Americans canceled free public transport in Moscow? Quote: "Here we do not understand that the United States of America and the State Department have taken away the right of way in Moscow from pensioners of the Moscow region. This is not understood. They think that Putin did it. Do you understand? This is the technology of deception."
    He's crazy, he has US agents everywhere
     
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    Can you give a link to the source where it is shown that Fedorov said this?
    McCain was the same idiot as Fedorov.
     
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    Sure, but he speaks russian
    Here you can use google translator https://www.aphorism.ru/authors/fedorov.html?page=1 There are links to a direct source
     
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    No need for fakes. Nowhere on the official level is there even the idea of inflicting not only an atomic, but any other strike - even on Ukraine. (If they don't get weird and start a war themselves)
     
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    Your video is taken out of context. Can you provide a link to the entire dialogue?
     
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    I beg you - don't take this idiot seriously! One of the main theses that Fedorov puts forward is that the entire Russian government is under the control of the United States. When the retirement age was raised in Russia, Fedorov voted for this law, and when asked why he did it, because the law on raising the retirement age was lobbied by the United States, which was signed by Putin, who is also a US agent who fights against the US occupation, he said that he could not do otherwise, because it would have given him away as a fighter against the occupiers from the USA 0_o

    When the Russian government was conducting a predatory law against truckers who were obliged to pay additional fees for each kilometer of the route traveled (Fedorov also voted for this). Truckers staged a strike, and Fedorov said literally the following: Dear citizens of the Russian Federation, as you can see, the United States of America is not asleep! This time they decided to strike another blow through their henchmen and national traitors - I'm talking about the strike of truckers who took to the streets to undermine Russian statehood
     
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    1) https://my.mail.ru/mail/b6173276/video/659/81505.html
    2) https://my.mail.ru/mail/p1lot76/video/4/95.html

    Believe me, there is nothing there that could be cut out of context, just if you listen to all the nonsense that he carries, you can go crazy yourself.

    The second link leads to a video about Viktor Tsoi (there was such a singer in the USSR, one of his songs with the words "Our hearts demand changes" was one of the symbols of the coup in 91) Fedorov claims that he was a CIA agent, like the whole family of this singer, in fact, he did not crash in a car accident, falling asleep at the wheel, and he was eliminated by the CIA. About the fact that Tsoi sang about aluminum cucumbers, Fedorov modestly keeps silent, apparently, the CIA agents were just looking for the right topic
     
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    The video is very long and I have neither the time nor the inclination to watch it. Fedorov is an idiot and I write about this in the subject of the post. But very often there are manipulations with a fragment of a statement.
    As an example of manipulating a piece of text.
    Some illiterate people are spreading a fake about what Comrade Stalin said - "It doesn't matter how vote, it's important how count."
    In reality, Comrade Stalin said - "In bourgeois countries, it is important not how they vote, but how they count." Thus, paraphrasing the statement of Napoleon 3, and referring not to the USSR, but to Western states.
    Agree, the full text is the exact opposite of the torn quote.
    So here too. I'm concerned about the shortness of the video - a few seconds.
    Perhaps he meant some kind of sanctions or economic actions of the United States, which led to a certain result. And as a result - what he said....However, politicians in Russia often speak absurd texts. For example, that "in the USSR nothing was produced except galoshes." And something else like that.
     
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    There must be something in the vodka!
     
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    I know who Viktor Tsoi is. This is a popular singer among Russian youth in the 80s. Is not it? I don't like his songs, but he wrote lyrics with a hint of social issues that young people liked.
    The fact that Tsoi was a CIA agent is absolute nonsense. Rather, Yeltsin, who said "God save America," can be recognized as a CIA agent. Yes, and Fedorov himself can rather be recognized as such - he very strongly and successfully shows by his example the inadequacy of people in power in Russia.
     
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    Believe me, in this case, nothing to cut. When Mr. Fedorov is called to a debate, he usually remains silent, or talks utter ****. When he is reproached for this, he sues those who laugh at him. He records all these videos in his office. Where no one will oppose him. They just cut out an absurd part. In Russia, it is not customary to cut out some parts of the video in order to change the context. Usually this is done in order to show what kind of idiot a person is, so as not to completely listen to the dregs for an hour.

    There are a lot of misconceptions about Stalin. And one of them is the Holodomor. I'm still waiting for Toggle to answer me)
     
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    Try it. You'll like it.
     
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    to be fair - all politicians in any country sometimes say stupid things. And the phrase about galoshes is definitely torn out of context.
     
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    The phrase was said in order to belittle the achievements of the USSR.
    Today in Russia there are more and more supporters of socialism and the USSR every year. The oligarchs don't like it. And as Comrade Lenin said - "The state is the dictatorship of the ruling class in the interests of the ruling class." Politicians who put the interests of the ruling class into practice want to belittle socialism and the USSR. Therefore, they say such absurd, from the point of view of an adequate person, phrases.
    And there is nothing surprising in this. I am sure that in any country in the world the state pursues a policy in the interests of the ruling class in their countries.
     
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    This is not true. Then the phrase about the fact that "we had a defense industry. Cool, strong, and we are still proud of it" He thanks his fathers and grandfathers for the first satellite, for the first man in space. And with consumer goods it was really bad. This is the meaning of a particular speech.
     
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    Not this way. Does he not know that the shortage of goods began after the death of Comrade Stalin? I'm sure he knows it very well. But he says his phrases precisely with a hint of the times of Comrade Stalin.
    At the same time, he, as a politician, cannot but know that with the advent of Khrushchev, the construction of socialism ended.
    Namely
    1. Khrushchev abolished the dictatorship of the proletariat. But even Lenin pointed out the fact that as soon as the dictatorship of the proletariat is abolished, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie will instantly arise, the role of which in the conditions of building socialism will be played by the bureaucracy. What happened.
    2. Khrushchev pushed through the Kosygin-Lieberman economic reforms. Where the concept of the production of a particular product was replaced by the execution of a financial plan. (For example, instead of a plan to produce a certain amount of shoes, nails, machine tools ... etc., a plan was set to produce products for a certain amount of money. This led to the fact that enterprises tried their best to refuse to produce cheap but necessary goods, replacing them, maybe not so popular, but expensive goods. This created a shortage of consumer goods.)
    3. Khrushchev's reforms also set a rate of return for enterprises, that is, they prescribed the creation of surplus value - and this is a 100% capitalist indicator. That is, the economic base became capitalist, but the political superstructure remained socialist. Which was a clear contradiction...
    And what happened next is a consequence of Khrushchev's policy.
    Even at a protest rally in Novocherkassk in 1962, the most massive poster carried by the workers was "We need someone like Stalin."
    But it is not customary to talk about this in the political elite of today's Russia. It is better to talk about "galoshes". Is not it?
     
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    n fact, socialism did not take place. There were not enough goods. What were the reasons for this does not matter. In his speech, Puti does not scold or ridicule the USSR, and there is no need to pull his words out of context. Just as it is not necessary to lie, they say Russia is discussing the possibility of inflicting a nuclear strike on anyone.
    P.S. The life and collapse of the USSR is better discussed elsewhere and in our native language. The local public is hardly interested ... and me too.
     

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