Income Inequality Is Greatest In the Most Liberal States

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    12/04/2014 06:17 PM ET


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    The most liberal states in the country are the worst run and have the widest gaps between rich and poor. Could it be that spread-the-wealth policies make things worse?

    The list of worst-run states — compiled by the news site 24/7 Wall St. using things like pension funding, credit ratings, unemployment, poverty, crime and high school graduation rates — shows that three of the bottom five are liberal. Illinois ranks dead last, followed by New Mexico, with Rhode Island coming in at No. 5.

    At the other end of the spectrum, only one of the top 5 best-run states — Minnesota — is liberal. North Dakota comes in first, followed by Wyoming, Nebraska and Iowa.

    Liberal states also show up, amazingly enough, as having the greatest levels of income inequality. That's according to another 24/7 Wall St. list, which based its ranking on state-level income inequality data from the Census Bureau.

    The state with the widest gap between rich and poor is New York. Also among the top 10 are Connecticut, California, Massachusetts, Illinois and New Jersey.

    These six states also just happen to be ones that have pushed hardest on redistributionist policies — imposing among the highest taxes rates in the nation and spending the most on transfer programs.

    New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and California have the heaviest state tax burdens, according to a separate 24/7 report, and these states are in the top 10 when it comes to per-capita spending on pensions, Medicaid and education.

    Another ranking, this one by George Mason University's Mercatus Center — which orders states by measures of economic and personal freedom — finds that these same six states have among the most intrusive governments.

    Mercatus' latest "Freedom in the 50 States" report finds that New York, California, New Jersey, Illinois, along with Louisiana, have the highest regulatory burdens of all 50 states. Look at any other ranking of business friendliness, and you'll see all the same states pooling at the bottom.

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    However, Progressive Socialist will claim that it's those dastardly rich conservative that hold all the wealth. Why is it that the deep blue states are shown as the holders of the wealth? IMHO, it's all about spreading of disinformation by Progressive Socialists. IMHO, their numerous and continuous lies of so called success can only be proven by the apparent unrest and poverty they have created in their 8 years of power.
     
  2. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like Progressive Socialists get up tight when the truth smacks them in the face.....
     
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    It's irrelevant, because all these states are in the SAME country.
     
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    It's not irrelevant. Democratic party policies destroy the middle class. It's reflected in the numbers.
     
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    You gotta remember that for the most part Progressive socialist ultimately believe there should only be two classes government and everyone else.
     
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    In Oregon, it turns out that the liberal center around Portland has a unemployment rate at a rate similar to the rest of the country. It is in the rural conservative counties where unemployment remains stubbornly high. The reason the employment is so high is because 20 years ago logging was so much mechanized that only a small proportion of the workers were required. Those who where laid off and even those coming of age can't figure out what else to do. The best they can come up with is a coal exporting plant that would employ only a few and pose a risk to the environment and the population.

    Maybe if they quit complaining about how bad liberals have made it for them, got off their bottoms, and did something for themselves, then maybe they wouldn't be driving themselves crazy with 'liberals did it' conspiracy theories. The worlds of their daddy and granddaddy are in the past. They need to face the modern world.
     
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    Why does your fantasy world always have such harsh boundaries? Such regimented quarters? Is that the way you think? If I'm going to fantasize about a world I prefer worlds where leaders don't much matter and the least among us aren't just thrown to the side.
     
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    Then quit chasing after socialist pipe dreams. Freedom sir is a messy thing. Some people will fail some will succeed, and you cannot ameliorate the circumstances of failure without also ameliorating the chances of success and doing the latter makes failure more likely not less. And please remember that not all successes are economic in nature.

    In a free society each man gets to determine what is success for him. That is to say what makes him happy. That is the innate genius of that phrase in the preamble to the constitution
    "the pursuit of happiness". You can pursue whatever you think will make you happy. But living in freedom means that in this life you may never catch it. And the more grandiose your dream the less likely you are to catch and the more materialistic that dream is the more likely it is to turn to ashes in your mouth when you do catch it.

    What do you know if anything about the former Soviet Union? That's what my former statement is based on. That is where all socialist pipe dreams end. That is why Mao did the Cultural revolution, to prevent that from happening in China. He failed utterly and killed millions trying.
     
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    You see, in your fantasy world I chase after socialist pipe dreams and the slop of messed up ideological bits that you don't even know what you're talking about. You have an enemy that doesn't exist in the real world. What is the necessity of that?
     
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    And what is worse is the fact that the 1% during Obama's admin have increased their wealth, and the middle class has lost ground. The ave middle class family has lost more than $3000 in buying power.
     
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    Since the end of the so-called Great Recession more than five years ago, wages adjusted for inflation have not budged, while median household incomes have fallen by 2.9%, according to Sentier Research. Inflation-adjusted median household incomes are 9% lower than in 1999 and about the same as in 1989.

    Annual household income has declined for every age cohort since 1999, and that adjusted for household size it has fallen by about $5,000 overall. Incomes have declined for all races (African-Americans) have been hit the hardest, and nearly as much for married couples as for female-headed households.

    Nor does education inoculate against income losses, which have occurred in households headed by college graduates and by those with less education. However, you slice income and earnings, the story is pretty much the same.

    Surprise! Surprise! The Fed data shows that the share of income received by the top 3% of families rebounded to 30.5% in 2013, from 27.7% in 2010. For the next highest 7%, though , the share of income hadn't changed during the previous quarter-century, sitting slightly below 17% in both 1989 and 2013.
     
  12. FAHayekowski

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    The only thing smacking me in the face is your ignorant clit^ris. I'll try to avoid that in the future. Accepting your nonsense as true, (a typical response for right wing nonsense), one or a few does not equate with all and...honestly, you're a tool.
     
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    True. That accounts for the high tax rates to pay for government workers' pensions and slaries that are above non government workers. When they count increases in employment, much of it is government jobs. Then they steal from the rest of us through taxes, to pay for it.
     
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    Government jobs pay less than private sector maybe you should check your facts.
     
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    You should check their pensions and healthcare.
     
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    Decent pensions and healthcare are luxuries right?
     
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    Also below the average, my parents retired Federal employees after 30 years work and they have average pensions. Like most federal employees.

    Certainly not like million dollar bonuses on wall street and CEO compensation.
     
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    When they steal money from others to pay for it, yes.
    If a private sector union negotiates for that, fine.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If It is irrelevant, then why do notably 'Democrats' in both Houses of Congress and this administration pay their female employees less than male aides? Seems they are consistent in their actions.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that envy speaking?
     
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    All Employees
    According to the BLS, the average earnings for full-time federal government employees was $74,403 in 2009. This figure does not factor in employee benefits, which are an important part of a federal employee's compensation.

    Managerial Salaries
    The average salary for financial managers working for the federal government was $119,671 in 2009, according to the BLS. On average, information technology managers made $91,104. The average human resources manager took home $81,837.

    Other Salaries
    The average 2009 salary figures are available on the BLS website for many federal workers. The figure for general attorneys was $128,422. The average salary for general engineers was $114,839. On average, economists made $108,010 and criminal investigators made $93,897. The average annual salary for customs and border protection agents was $92,558, and on average librarians made $84,796.

    Read more : http://www.ehow.com/facts_7470700_average-salary-government-employees.html

    Hmm..., People might rethink their statements don't you think?
     
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    Private school teachers make about 2/3 of what their public school. In fact you are in error regarding almost everything. Where federal workers are doing engaged in similar activities to those in the private sector the they make as much a 2/3, the only place in which this is not true is at the very top.
     
  23. FAHayekowski

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    Well,I suppose all wages are stealing b/c it is at the beneficence of the ER that EEs get paid Take a hike you company man.
     
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    Public teachers make about 50k and private teachers make about 36k.

    What's your point?
     
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    Why don't they just compare the median with the average income instead of giving us this fake propaganda answer with no clear methodology?

    Obviously the bigger the disparity between the median income and average income the greater the wealth inequality.

    Right?
     

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