Independant Investigation on WTC Dust

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  1. Hannibal

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    Dr. James Millette has conducted an independent study of the dust found at the site of the World Trade Center attacks. It was the centerpiece of three major presentations by his lab at the American Association of Forensic Scientists 2012 convention. LINK

    What he found was very interesting. Please read through the report and engage in civil discussion.

    The Report
     
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    Wow! I can't believe anyone spent that much time and effort to completely destory Jones' claims. The results are exactly what occam's razor says they would be. Paint chips. Nothing else. No possibility of thermite, thermate, nano-thermite, superthermite, or any other variation of therm* that truthers make up. Nice find and excellent paper. Not that truthers will read it. They will avoid it like the plague.
     
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    WHY haven't the scholarly 'truthers' done this themselves?

    I suppose if using a phone is to tough, this must really seem impossible.
     
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    I've always wondered this. The usual excuse is something like, "We can't trust the New World Order government labs to tell us the truth". But how hard is it to send an anonymous sample to a lab? "Anonymous" in that you are not stupid enough to put on the application, "WTC dust; looking for proof of INSIDE JOB", if that's your concern. These labs gets hundreds of sample requests from everywhere; any real scientist would know this. Instead Jones has been making money lecturing on how nano termites prove an inside job.
    Before he discovered FREE ENERGY. Wonder how much money he plans to milk that for?

    Comments at JREF:
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=231314
     
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    Considering they admit they don't know the origin of the red/gray chips then the entire experiment was a waste of time and money. Why do people so foolishly tout this as proving anything?
     
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    You do realize it was truthers trying to pretend the red and gray chips prove thermite that started it, right? Jones et al. couldn't conclusively show where the paint chips came from either.

    Just goes to show the hypocricy of truthers. If the study backs up their retarded theories, then it is pure gold and has no faults. Anything else is crap and how DARE anyone publish it! :lol:
     
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    I don't care about Jones, etc. But thanks again for another example of why your posts are an embarrassment to your camp.
     
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    :lol: Run away from the truth again, SS! You whine like a little child when someone posts a report to directly refute a report truthers held up as proof of thermite, thus driving yet another nail into the coffin of truther credibility.

    I realize it must sting, but the childish posts like the one you just made don't help your credibility nor do they advance your anti-American agenda.
     
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    You should read the paper, it discusses this very issue.
     
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    I've never held up a report about thermite as credible but don't let being dishonest slow you down.....
     
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    I don't need to waste time reading the paper. Maybe you can find some silly reason to justify the test results but since they don't know the origin of the test subjects it is completely useless.
     
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    Is that what passes for truther investigation?

    How often is TL : DR a valid argument in the real world?
     
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    Of course not. Why bother with facts when you've already made up your mind?

    Interesting how you assume they don't show the origin of the samples they test. Why waste time educating yourself, though?
     
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    I didn't assume they don't know the origin.....they straight up said they don't know the origin. Can you ever be honest?
     
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    Then why are you in this thread?
     
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    How about showing where I've claimed you did? More made up dishonesty from you. Or is it that your ego is so huge you consider yourself the sum total of all truthers now? That is the only way what I said can be construed to specifically point to you.
     
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    Because Hannibal linked it in another thread and asked for comments. Is that okay with you? Or should I send you a PM asking permission before I post in a thread? You ever get that debate thread ready?
     
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    So your comment on this topic was to comment that you didn't care about the topic you were commenting on?

    What topic interests you? I'm a big fan of the Pakistani ISI connection, but that's just me.
     
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    Where did they say this? Link, please.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/1060971615-post8.html

    You just keep proving what an obese piece of human trash you love to be......
     
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    it's the same link in the OP.....did you even read it?
     
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    Is this the Special Olympics section? I already pointed out why I posted....mainly to highlight they don't know the origin of the chips they tested......goodness....
     
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    Yes, I did. No such claim is made.
     
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    It's the first line under the title: Notes on the Source of the Remains/Gray Chips.

    If they don know the product they cannot possibly know the origin and they already admitted it does not match the primer used on the iron.

    How many buildings and structures were destroyed that day? These chips could have come from anywhere which makes the testing of them completely useless.
     
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    Tnemec is a company name. While they don't know where the red gray chips were originally located in the building, they do know 2 things. 1. They were manufactured using Tnemec pigments. 2. They are constant with chips of primer paint.

    The inability to match a specific Tnemec product with the chips could simply be that Tnemec no longer makes the coating that was used 40 years ago.
     
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