India and Pakistan inch closer to war after Pakistan backed terrorist kills 40 Indian soldiers

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    In what is being described as valentine's day massacre , yesterday a Pakistan backed suicide bomber rammed a vehicle filled with explosives into a bus carrying paramilitary forces , killing more than 40 Indian troops . The news channels are literally building a war hysteria ever since and a real war may break out . Pressure is on PM Modi to conduct a surgical strike on Pakistan , which will be retaliated in kind by Pakistan

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    Indian Air force strike inside Pakistan

    12 Mirage 2000s flew from AFS Gwalior, refueled midair and moved onward to their mission to Balakot, which is in KPK (undisputed Pak territory).

    >2,000 lbs (yield, not weight) of LGBs were dropped, and an estimated 200+ hadjis were indiscriminately killed.

    The wave consisted of a mixture of jets with ground-strike packages, as well as those heavy on AAMs to deal with pak interception

    Source DFI ( defence forum of India )
     
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    ah why not... everyone else is as war
     
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    If either side's IS terrorists get their hands on the nuke arsenals we'll really be in deep doo-doo? :eekeyes: Hope I haven't spoilt y'all's day? :mrgreen:
     
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    India is a Hindu majority state . Islamic State cannot take over our nukes at least .
     
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    Pakistan's.
     
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    The IS most likely won't take over Pakistani nukes . They are too well guarded . Of course , the military which rules behind the scenes in Pakistan itself could take the decision to attack with nukes . That is the threat it has always held at India's head whenever India thought of responding to the various acts of terror Pakistan sponsored in India . This time Indian tolerance to these terrorist attacks has run out .
     
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    That is what is scary.
    If India can destroy them and their support all might work out.
    If uncontrolled Muslims get ahold of Pakistan's nukes, the whole world might be in danger.
     
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    indian women dance to celebrate the strike at wagah border , the official crossing point into pakistan
     
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    I shall try to piece together yesterday's attack as it happened in simple language .
    First of all , the decision to strike was inevitable because the Jaish e Mohammed was going to terror bomb again after the Pulwama attack .
    Our intelligence agents from RAW had found out that the JEM had shifted many terrorists from their launch pads along LOC to balakot in Pakistan . Here they were in a training camp cum resort with firing range for practicing and swimming pool as well . Head of this camp was Azhar Yusuf , who was brother in law of JEM chief Masood Azhar .
    Our 12 french built mirage 2000 jets took off from their main base of Gwalior in central India rather than any forward base in order to surprise . If they had been shifted to forward base then ISI spies would have conveyed the info to Pakistan . After the mirages took off they underwent mid air refuelling from 2 Russian built Ilyushin 78 air tankers which had flown in from Agra .
    As the mirages moved towards Pakistan they were joined by some Sukhoi 30 MKI air dominance fighters from Bareilly and halwara air bases , whose task was to protect them from air attack . The whole formation crossed the LOC and then into Pakistan itself . Additional sukhois were flying along the LOC in case an air battle broke out . Indeed some Pakistani fighter jets were directed towards the formation but went back and did not attack because they were Chinese tech inferior jf 17 fighters unable to match our fighters .
    All this was happening around 3 am in dead of night . At 3 .27 am the mirages released their payload on the target . It consisted of Israeli built spice 2000 laser guided bombs . The laser designator paints the target with a beam of laser and the bomb then rides along the beam to smash into the target . Also some Israeli built AGM 142 ( Popeye 2 ) missiles were fired from a distance of 60 to 80 km . The destruction was complete and at least 300 jehadis were killed . Some camps near LOC were hit too . They had been identified by Israeli built heron drones by aerial surveillance .
    The balakot camp was spread over 6 acres , so 6 big 1000 kg bombs were used . It is 64 km from abottabad where Osama bin Laden was killed . The havoc rose nearby villagers from their sleep according to BBC Urdu , which took interviews of the villagers . The villagers thought that some earthquake was shaking them out of their sleep . The Indian fighter jets returned to their bases by 4 am . The IAF was using Phalcon AWACS and another mini AWACS to track enemy fighters . AWACS is plane with huge 400 km range radar that detects enemy fighters and transfers that info to our fighters by data link . The AWACS flew from Bhatinda air base .
    This is the first air attack by a nuclear power on the territory of another nuclear power . So it is a record of sorts . Jai Hind !!
     
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    War begins . Both India and Pakistan claim each other's fighter jets shot .
     
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    Of course India has nukes . But IS does not have a chance of taking them because India is Hindu majority not Islam majority . The Islamic state is not big here except among the minority Muslims . That is what I meant.
     
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    one Indian pilot becomes prisoner of war

    What happened is that as Pakistani jets entered Indian territory and dropped glide bombs the Indian pilot in old mig 21 chased them . That was his mistake . He should have left the chasing to new modern mig 29 or mirage or Sukhoi . Inspite of having old mig 21 he shot down a Pak jet . But the Pak pilot fell in their own territory and we have no prisoner to show . On the other hand our pilot is caught as his lone plane was attacked by several Pak planes in their territory. We should salute our brave pilot flying his old fighter into Pak territory . When yesterday our modern aircraft attacked Pak no Pakistan plane dared to challenge them . Ran away despite being scrambled .

    On defence forum of India they are saying that indian PM Modi has lost initiative with captured pilot who is being paraded by pakistan on TV . Domestic pressure will build to get him released. But if Modi tries for peace right now he will be labelled as warmonger who had to accept initiative of peacemaker pakistani PM imran Khan , and will lose face in front of electorate . So it is important that he does not back out of action now .
     
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    Pakistan says it will release captured Indian pilot as gesture of peace tomorrow .

    Tomorrow is another day . What if further violation of LOC by Pakistani fighter jets occurs and situation escalates and Pakistan backtracks on its promise ? Let us hope for best .
     
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