INSTEX "made operational" - Trade between EU and Iran starts

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    He said..
    “They’re sending people that have a lot of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” Why do you lie?
    And you're nitpicking about the some, as if most of the are rapist. That's right wing fake news.
    Over 10 million of them are in the US. If most of them were rapist,.. we would know.
    And so Trump feeds this fake news about people of an ethnic background.
    And here you are... being a believer of a fairy tale.
     
  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another lie.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet you say that they embraced Christianity. Not picking on you Sobo....it is the same in my country. There are many that claim to be Christian, but in reality they are secular humanists or atheists.However, we have a large population of those who walk with God.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course I din't quote verbatim as you did in the 2nd post, however any observer would say my version is 10 time closer to the original quote than yours. You just repeat the leftist lie you hear on the news. You try and interpret Trumps words to say that all illegal immigrants are rapists......what a lie.
     
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    That’s all bullshit.
    When you become Muslims you will just become another shithole country that hates America.
     
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    No leftist would quote RT.
    That thing is not a leftist.
     
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    Eastern Germany got rid of that cult in last 100 years. Thats good.
     
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    Not a lie. Its still on Twitter, he said he wants to exterminate Iranians
     
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    You're nitpicking between "all" and "most" while we all know that even if it was most people of the 11 million are rapists.... that we would know. It's obviously a lie. An obvious lie about an ethnicity. Still makes it racist.
     
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    Why are you complaining about a poster making a statement of fact - as if stating a demonstrable fact is like "Crazy Talk". Perhaps reality is "Crazy talk" in your world but, what does this say about your world ?

    It is true that if we decreased total military spending that our country would be richer - Not sure how you are quantifying "much richer" but there is no doubt that we would have more money to spend on domestic programs.

    NATO is an undesired and unneeded expense to many of the EU nations. It is the US that benefits most from NATO (sans some tiny nations like Poland that have a legitimate need for protection)
     
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    Since you also hate America - you should be happy that others want to join your angst - misery loves company does it not ?
     
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    Another mindlessly false statement. If there is an article on RT that has some relevance to a point a leftist wants to make - why wouldn't they quote this article. Why do you constantly make things up that have no basis in reality ?
     
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    The word "most" is not in the quote. So you stand by the lie?
     
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    Right after Trump won RT got some really bad publicity here. It was discussed on all major networks and it got no good reviews from anyone, even Fox.
    See, if you lived in the US you’d know no American lefty or a hippy would ever quote RT, Sputnik or some other Russian junk.
     
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    If he said... some do not, than it does mean most do. There is no grey area in raping.
     
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    Ever hear some don't some do???? What, you got corncobs between your ears? "Some" is non-specific. You interpret it as "most" to perpetuate a complete lie!
     
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    Lived here most of my life skippy. That you would rely on reviews from our State Propaganda MSM is telling. What is also telling is that rather than going to the site for yourself and reading some of the news - you rely on "State Propaganda MSM" for your opinion.

    You would also find out that not only do lefties - and righties read and quote from RT - they appear on the network - especially when they have opinions that are "verboten" in our clown show propaganda machine.

    So aside from your comments being fallacy by definition - they are simply false.

    This does not mean there is no bias in any of the op-eds or news on RT - but it is a whole lot better than Fox, MSNBC, CNN.

    Further - I gave you a link - what part of the information in that link did not sink in. What form of denial mechanism kicked in such that you did not even address the information presented ? How is it that you just avoid "bad thoughts" = information that conflicts with your spoon fed beliefs ?

    "No American" - Just bizzare mindlessness. I gave you the name of journalist who was punted from MSNBC because he wanted to cover Sanders announcing that he was running in the 2016 election. Is he not an "American" ? What about Ron Paul - who has appeared on the site .. is he not American ?

    Something is wrong with a persons brain when they can just pretend information that conflicts with their claims does not exist.
     
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    Liz Wahl would disagree with every point you make.
    But hey, who cares about facts when it comes to defending mother Russia?
    And you lived in the US most of your life? I don’t know, Boris, I suspect that’s not really the case.
     
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    What does Liz Wahl have to do with an article being factual or not - other than ZERO. You can't seem to say anything without engaging in fallacy. What does Liz Wahl have to do with the information in a Ron Paul interview - and how does this interview being conducted by RT - automatically make everything that comes out of Paul's mouth false.

    "who cares about facts" sums up your perspective well - Glad you at least admit it.
     
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    You brought up Ed Schultz, the great and famous, yet unknown political commentary that worked at RT and claimed to have great freedoms there and I bring up Liz Wahl who publicly quit because she was too sick with RT bias and lies. I believe Liz is not alone, there were other journalists that publicly quit RT in other countries too.
    So, your Ed Schultz argument is irrelevant.
     
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    Of course Ed Shultz is not irrelevant. You are claiming that anything from RT is bogus - simply on the basis that it is from RT. Not only is this logical fallacy (obviously you don't know what ad hom fallacy is) it is complete falsehood. Shultz did not start lying just because he went to RT - and neither to folks like Ron Paul being interviewed.

    I never claimed that everything from RT should be trusted - like any source - one should should do some due diligence.

    Unlike you - some of us do not just ingest state propaganda without questioning - we like to hear both sides of the story - realizing that either side might be propaganda. That's what intelligent people do - what you label "Russian Trolling".

    You are the the one that is famous for trolling - spouting unsupported nonsense and fallacy - based on a one sided perspective.

    Sorry dude but that is not academic rigor.
     
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    That's not wat the Dotard said.
     

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